Hi @eaglespirit, that kind of upvoting is allowed, almost expected, otherwise they wouldn't have put that option there. 😉 the only bad thing with that, is it automatically depletes your voting power, which you may not notice or realize as it's happening.
I think what is being referred to most often, is the practice some people have (and I don't quite understand how it could work) of creating multiple steemit accounts, and having those accounts upvote your ¿main? account? then others see you being upvoted a lot, and not knowing any better, like good sheeple and come along for the ride and start upvoting as well.
You can invest your own Steem and pay to have your article put in the "Trending" category too, which will bring more votes, even though your post is crap.
That is how I understand, albeit imperfectly, what all the hoopla is about.
Yes!! Now that makes total sense. I’ve seen some strange things going on and I could th figure it out. Thank you for explaining. I still do mornings understand how upvoting takes away money from my own post, and I see people saying I feel they upvote a lot their money goes down that way too? It’s almost like upvoting I should punished. 🤦♀️ I upvote a lot since I’m reading and may like what people are communicating. 😑 @jerrytsuseer
Do you use Steemnow.com? Or some other site to track your money?
With Steem Now, you can watch as with each upvote (it also shows you exactly how much your 100%vote is worth) your vote power drops.
So now, even with using my bank to purchase steem (which increases my vote power) I am down to where my vote is only worth a penny.
And it will take more than 2 full days of NOT UPVOTING ANYTHING, for it to come back up to 100 %
@jerrytsuseer this is so helpful. What does it mean “full voting power in 12 hours” and once 12 hours is here what can I do? How do I keep it at full voting power? 😁
Wow! NO, I had no idea about this. Thank you thank you thank you. Is this worth the energy to learn about this? Also, I’m still trying to figure out the difference of steem, steem power and steem dollars. Also how amen what to Put my money into. Plus not allow anyone else to manipulate my money?
Well now.
a. you're welcome welcome welcome, and yes it is worth it, but
b. there isn't really anything to learn about steemnow.com, it is just a little site that allows you
To keep track of your posts, their values, the upvotes by others ON your posts,
All that for the time period of one week (the payout period)
There is another site, that actually gives you more detail: https://steemdb.com/
Ty! I think I got it now. I also read upvoting comments is not so good? I’m still trying to figure out why my numbers decrease? Why or how voting power diminishes too?
Upvoting/downvoting comments is fine too, it's part of the system. Every time you upvote or downvote, your voting power is reduced. It replenishes at a rate of 20% per day.
Read more in the FAQ https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_is_my_voting_power
I don't think so. Isn't it natural for folks to be naturally biased towards their own material? Would that not make this practice counterintuitive towards content quality which would invariably affect the perceived value of the platform. If an author believes that their content adds value to the block chain, is all this self-voting and vote buying really necessary?
The self-voting has been an endless debate. There are pros and cons. In my view, when authors spend time researching, creating and writing content, they should have the right to upvote it, and that's what the platform allows them to do, so why not do it? Of course, if they chose not to do it, it's their prerogative. Naturally, if self-upvoting is done in an abusive an repetitive manner, other users have the option to downvote.
It will continue to be so until something changes. I'm afraid flagging is not enough for this problem.
Unfortunately, it is a mechanism that is indiscriminate towards any of the criteria you noted and there are not enough people flagging the problem of content that is overvalued due to excessive vote buying and self voting. It's just the nature of the beast right now.
Depends on who you ask,...
Don't you upvote your own posts, when you post them @eaglespirit?
@jerrytsuseer yes I do, is that the wrong thing to do? It almost sounded as if it’s not looked upon kindly to do so?
Hi @eaglespirit, that kind of upvoting is allowed, almost expected, otherwise they wouldn't have put that option there. 😉 the only bad thing with that, is it automatically depletes your voting power, which you may not notice or realize as it's happening.
I think what is being referred to most often, is the practice some people have (and I don't quite understand how it could work) of creating multiple steemit accounts, and having those accounts upvote your ¿main? account? then others see you being upvoted a lot, and not knowing any better, like good sheeple and come along for the ride and start upvoting as well.
You can invest your own Steem and pay to have your article put in the "Trending" category too, which will bring more votes, even though your post is crap.
That is how I understand, albeit imperfectly, what all the hoopla is about.
Yes!! Now that makes total sense. I’ve seen some strange things going on and I could th figure it out. Thank you for explaining. I still do mornings understand how upvoting takes away money from my own post, and I see people saying I feel they upvote a lot their money goes down that way too? It’s almost like upvoting I should punished. 🤦♀️ I upvote a lot since I’m reading and may like what people are communicating. 😑 @jerrytsuseer
Do you use Steemnow.com? Or some other site to track your money?
With Steem Now, you can watch as with each upvote (it also shows you exactly how much your 100%vote is worth) your vote power drops.
So now, even with using my bank to purchase steem (which increases my vote power) I am down to where my vote is only worth a penny.
And it will take more than 2 full days of NOT UPVOTING ANYTHING, for it to come back up to 100 %
https://steemnow.com/
@jerrytsuseer this is so helpful. What does it mean “full voting power in 12 hours” and once 12 hours is here what can I do? How do I keep it at full voting power? 😁
Wow! NO, I had no idea about this. Thank you thank you thank you. Is this worth the energy to learn about this? Also, I’m still trying to figure out the difference of steem, steem power and steem dollars. Also how amen what to Put my money into. Plus not allow anyone else to manipulate my money?
Well now.
a. you're welcome welcome welcome, and yes it is worth it, but
b. there isn't really anything to learn about steemnow.com, it is just a little site that allows you
To keep track of your posts, their values, the upvotes by others ON your posts,
All that for the time period of one week (the payout period)
There is another site, that actually gives you more detail:
https://steemdb.com/
@eaglespirit, do you know about, and/or are you using the $upvote bots in Discord? The payout is pennies, but still
https://discordapp.com/channels/319885228464406528/319885497428344832
It's perfectly fine to self-upvote.
Ty! I think I got it now. I also read upvoting comments is not so good? I’m still trying to figure out why my numbers decrease? Why or how voting power diminishes too?
Upvoting/downvoting comments is fine too, it's part of the system. Every time you upvote or downvote, your voting power is reduced. It replenishes at a rate of 20% per day.
Read more in the FAQ https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_is_my_voting_power
Thank you!
I don't think so. Isn't it natural for folks to be naturally biased towards their own material? Would that not make this practice counterintuitive towards content quality which would invariably affect the perceived value of the platform. If an author believes that their content adds value to the block chain, is all this self-voting and vote buying really necessary?
The self-voting has been an endless debate. There are pros and cons. In my view, when authors spend time researching, creating and writing content, they should have the right to upvote it, and that's what the platform allows them to do, so why not do it? Of course, if they chose not to do it, it's their prerogative. Naturally, if self-upvoting is done in an abusive an repetitive manner, other users have the option to downvote.
It will continue to be so until something changes. I'm afraid flagging is not enough for this problem.
Unfortunately, it is a mechanism that is indiscriminate towards any of the criteria you noted and there are not enough people flagging the problem of content that is overvalued due to excessive vote buying and self voting. It's just the nature of the beast right now.