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RE: @haejin claims he only self-votes his posts because he gets flagged...

in #steem7 years ago (edited)

I never understood the war on @haejin until recently. I have only been a member of Steemit for almost four months (111 days to be specific) and I have been trying my absolute hardest to succeed on this platform by writing quality content and giving back to the platform through upvotes, resteems and encouraging comments.

I am trying to be one of the good guys, one of the few who are writing content to try and improve this place. I am not publishing photos of flowers with no captions and spending $500 on bots to get them to trending. Or writing spam pieces like Jerry Banfield is.

And then yesterday I received my first Haejin flag. I am not a power user, I am not rich and my posts only recently started making me $1+ thanks to some great community initiatives like @teamaustralia who have helped me immensely.

Haejin claims that he never downvotes for no reason. I wrote a tongue-in-cheek post titled, Proposal: rename Steemit to Haejinit. I didn't attack Haejin, but I didn't sugarcoat the damage he is doing to this site. Well, Haejin flagged it.

I only just reached the 49 reputation mark on Steemit and flags from Haejin hurt for a plankton like me. And I thought it was completely unjustified, Haejin censored a post that wasn't favourable to him and didn't even have the audacity to write a comment explaining why.

Are you aware of an account called @starjuno ? They then went and flagged a bunch of my comments on the post as well as flagging comments I have left on other posts. This account seems to exist to resteem and upvote Haejin's content, is it a Haejin bot and are you aware of it?

Do you have any advice for me @berniesanders ? What can a newbie to Steemit do to stop being brigaded by the likes of Haejin and his bot accounts? I don't know what I did wrong other than poke fun at the rampant abuse. Is this what Haejin wants, to silence people?

I won't let it discourage me, but I wish there was help out there because I have spoken to others who have been flagged by Haejin and associated accounts before and for seemingly no valid reason.

How many people has Haejin pushed away from this platform because of flagging? It's damaging and in the long-run, it'll damage this platform and stop it growing.

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He's a very hypocritical beast, that's for sure. Do your best to avoid him. @starjuno is one of his alternate accounts. His time will come, just stay clear of him for now.

His time will come

How do you imagine that? He's got an army of loyal slaves-asskissers and bots AND also has a shitton of SP. Your crusade on this parasite is admirable, but let's face it, your rep is -15, and his is the highest on the platform. The rot and corruption goes on. The communal effort at flagging won't damage him much, too. I really hope I'm wrong and that somebody (preferably time itself) proves me wrong.

The "army of loyal slaves" has minimal affect on his rewards. It all comes from himself.

Every day he can keep his practices going. It will be harder to put a halt to them.

Thanks @berniesanders - I appreciate your efforts to try and extinguish the dumpster fire that has been raging here for a while now. I hope to support the cause by buying some SP soon and then delegating it towards the effort to turn things around here. I assumed it was one of his accounts, considering all they do is flag anyone who speaks a bad word and resteem his "TA".

I have hope that one day the issues with the platform will be resolved or minimised, I am not sure how or when, but hope is all we have for the moment and it's reassuring to know that people such as yourself want to fix the issues (even if it is an uphill battle).

The question is why doesn't STINC do something about it?
I'm all for self-governing society where social trends direct the flow of power, but when power and reputation can be bought, the umbrella (STINC) needs to lend a guiding hand to steer the ship in the right direction.

Maybe the answer is to have community backed moderators, almost like the Witnesses where the community elects a number of moderators who can help guide the system, not for rewards but for fairness.
But then again that's also corruptible and can get used for evil.

capitalism and democracy are incompatible

Minnows should stay well clear of this war - we haven't any power and will just get crushed in the process. Leave it to the whales.

In the meanwhile, if you see someone who doesn't deserve it getting votes, don't flag them, instead upvote someone else. The amount of steem distributed in a 24 hour period is fixed, so your upvote for someone else has the same effect as flagging the bad guys in that it redistributes the steem. And this way you won't be at risk of being flagged yourself and will make the day of the noob you have upvoted!

It doesn't have the same effect. A $0.10 upvote for someone else won't take $0.10 away from haejin.

It does have the same effect. The pool of steem is fixed. So a $0.10 flag on haegin's post has the same effect as a $0.10 upvote for someone else. So don't bother flagging, just upvote someone else.

That's not correct. If I flag haejin (or anybody else) his rewards are directly reduced by the exact amount of my vote's worth.

Upvoting someone else rewards that person at the expense of everybody else. Downvoting someone rewards everybody else at the expense of that single individual.

Proof: When @thing-2 upvoted you, haejin's rewards remained the same...because the .25 was spread across all current claimants on Steem for the day. If it were a downvote for haejin, haejin's rewards would be .25 less.

Here's another way to put it:

A downvote means that I believe the rest of the community should have a greater say in reward pool distribution than than the user who upvoted haejin. This is my basic rationale for why I flag him. He is mindlessly and indiscriminately upvoted by a single individual who has never given any reason for doing so. It is my belief that Steemians as a whole show better discretion than that guy and therefore should be allotted a greater weight when it comes to reward pool distribution.

Of course he wants to silence people.

He is (in my very not-humble, better-than-him, opinion) a middle-brow, low-rent, high-falutin, financially illiterate huckster who provides unfalsifiable Barnum Statement non-advice advice to vulnerable poor people.

If he believes what he’s selling, he’s a new-age pseudo-scientific drivel peddling weirdo.

If he doesn’t believe what he’s selling, he’s a charlatan.

A flag from him should only be salubrious for your mental health.

You should wear it like a badge of honor.

I certainly would.

just admiring the use of language....eloquent albeit sharper then the chedder i enjoy occasionally

If anyone write anything that haejin thinks is negative towards him.... he will downvote you. Then he will start to downvote all of your blog post. That is how he is. He is a bigger snowflake than Hillary Clinton.

we need more people like you. not just on the platform but in the world. stay cool bro

Not to mention his "technical" analysis is the opposite of technical, it is useless garbage that is almost always wrong, except when he occasionally gets lucky. It makes Steemit and cryptocurrencies in general look terrible to see horoscope-esque garbage like that on this website.

I've said it before: If Haejin's "analysis" was even slightly accurate on average for long periods of time, he wouldn't have to upvote himself nonstop to generate income, he could just take his own assets and become wildly rich off of cryptocurrency predictions.