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RE: Hardfork 20: What to Expect Tomorrow

in #steem6 years ago

My problem with RC credit system is:

Votes and token actions will require relatively few RCs, for example, while comments will consume far more RCs. Again, this is based entirely on the amount of computational resources these activities consume.

Especially the part that talks about Comments does this mean I am going to eventually need to balance my cost of casting a vote, verse leaving a comment on an individual post? Because all the resources are coming from one place or will vote power rebuild as it does at the current rate, and will we now need to wait for a second rebuild of RC to make a comment? Like glen above I sometimes like to leave long comments, and or lots of them.

I didn't initially join steemit for the crypto. In fact I still have only a very limited understanding of it. I do understand that today and all the yesterdays I was on steemit I could comment as much as I wanted, but had to limit my votes. After tomorrow am I still going to be able to comment all I want?

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While I could easily be wrong about this, I strongly suspect that any established user who comments at a human pace won't have any issues with RCs, any more than we have any issue with bandwidth now.

Very-low-SP users could have an issue, and low-SP bots will definitely have an issue.

I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens. then.

All you want until you run out of resource credits, and it's not entirely clear if you will be able to quickly deduce just exactly what that means in concrete terms, or if any interface will have any way to immediately track it. Look how long it took for various front ends and tools sites to show you your voting power at all. Now this? We'll all be guessing for a while, which is why the warnings on this page and others like it just say "unexpected somethings might seem messed up for you for an unknown amount of time" and that's basically what any uncomfortable, inconvenient truth comments on this page are pointing out as a problem for our user base and those of us who live in the communities trying to explain it to them as witnesses, and community leaders they look to on a daily basis in the absence of reliable information from "above".

Do you think it will take long for a steemd type bar, or a steemworld circle system to be developed? The RC thing is going to be the hardest thing to get used to at first I guess. We will see what will be.

Votes are a transaction that has an RC price as are post/comments and wallet transfers and so on.

Yes they are related.

HOW they will replenish and how many votes and comments per cycle of recharge you can make have direct correlation to stake weight.

It remains poorly documented and to some degree unarticulated as to how "fast is recharge/replenish" and how "many per charge" of a thing a user will have - today for example we know what voting power is in relation to bandwidth and can say to some degree you will use 100% over 10 votes a 24 hour cycle at 100% each, with the slider enabling some throttling of your utilization as it works now, to enable using your 100% " vote bandwidth "fuel" at a better mpg so to speak, as a metaphor.

We just don't seem to have clear path to what this will mean after the HF.

Is that good news? No it should be made clear to users in plain and certain terms.

Has it been? No, because everyone who should be able to tell us, seems to at best be guessing and at worst not providing info at all.

Further, the interfaces we eventually developed to show voting power percentages on various front ends and tools sites won't work with this anymore, without repairs and changes to their code. So it's going to be "surprise surprise surprise" for a few days to weeks while "things balance" which is doublespeak in code, for we'll tell you once we figure it out after people start using it and it plays itself out.

As you aptly surmised in the post this question originated from, @bashadow , "We will see what will be."

And that's why many are expressing concern on this page about pushing out so many changes at once, and not even being able to explain them by the people who invented them.

Thanks, now we play the waiting game. I kind of feel sorry for the front end people, I really like @stemchillers vote gauge, gonna be sad to see it maybe not work. He will get one up I am sure that will work fine again I am sure.

On the plus side, maybe some big votes when the sliders don't work like they used to. ;-}

It's going to be quite a show for a few hours/days/weeks/months?