Boom! Headshot. I tried to reason w/ that fella a while back. You commented on that thread as well. I'd surmise he is fishing for upvotes as his statement is rather inconsistent with the objective most reasonable Steemians share against the onslaught of spam that we at @steemflagrewards fight on the daily. Would be nice if @ned gave us a delegation so we would have the means to pay our mods and contributors but I digress.
The point I am trying to make is @lanmower is commenting positive about the update which effectively hinders spammers while he will object to the flagging of same spammers which is quite peculiar. Hopefully, he takes your message to heart and evaluates his self.
Perhaps, we can all work together to make this blockchain better, be it through flags, through Pull Requests, and discussions just like this. But I'm not holding my breath about this one.
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This little kid has been nothing but a troll since he showed up sometime this past summer, trolling around various discords I mod, mostly being a know nothing know it all punk. I fed him loads of bullshit and let him think he was winning so he would go away back then but it was time to school him and put him down for a nap. It's amusing when some barely out of highschool kid tries to troll someone nearly three times their age, it won't end well for them.
Arguing with cork is like arguing with a 5 year old.
You have to keep your sentences short.
And allow enough white space for his brain to catch up.
define spam
Here is our consensus definition that may be also found on our GitHub
Thanks to @freebornangel for putting this in a post with an easily readable forget.
Please, let me know your thoughts. Always welcome community feedback in how we may improve definitions.
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You see the problem is then that all our services, yours included, is considered spam by your collective. You guys comment spam, we spam stats and live streams. And although we spam way more than you do, we allow for natural upvotes, whereas you guys autoupvote every flagrewards comment, thus stealing from all of us. I guess we should start an anti-steemflagrewards community to reduce your impact?
Or perhaps you guys should all come join us so that you can also see that bot accounts and spam is actually beneficial for all of us.
The blockchain itself is doing good. We have a LOT of transactions that happen every second. Steemit and other front end services arent doing so good. As the content that you guys want, do not appeal to mass audiences. Which means we arent creating any new traffic to any of these front ends.
Popular media consists of memes and cat pictures. Parody and satire. You might not like it. I don't even like it. But you have to accept the world as it is, before you can start to change it.
Another thing that bothers me about steemflagrewards, steemcleaners, and all the other busy-bodies. You guys all attack the little guy. Not once have you flagged haejin, or berniesanders, or any of the so-called bad-whales. You don't even flag us because we have enough stake to fight back. Seems kinda like a war between the USA and Nauru.
So, who's funding this blatant oppression of the minnow-class? And why are you, a person with a relatively good moral compass, part of it?
Well, the thing is that we have verifiable proof of brain behind the bot approval mechanism. I promise you our volunteer mods are not automatons. They are human beings with gray mass making the decision to review and approve the mention comments.
What you say though is important for what we are looking to implement soon, that is the auto-approvals for whitelisted abuse fighters. We will ensure that via that mechanism that no comments are generated something I did not think about before your comment.
Way to go, @stephanus! We probably would have overlooked that otherwise.
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If you take the human out of it, I'd probably comment on your comments way less. Because a bot will have set parameters. IE. Do not copy/paste. Do not reuse photos. Do not etc.
Which would actually encourage certain behaviour. And you would actually make a difference then.
Right now though, nobody knows what's up. Can I post 200 memes consecutively and not get flagged by you? Or can I use vimm to post the same content every 2 hours to generate traffic to my stream? There are NO RULES. Everyone is posting, hoping some collective wont start a flag war with them. Your initiative creates a stressful environment. And nobody wants to work for a bunch of pricks.
Also, if I was a mod, I'd flag this entire discussion because it has nothing to do with the main thread.
What I really want to know though, is, what can I do so that we never need to see each other on the blockchain again? Because I am gonna do 90% of the type of stuff you listed. Is there a specific format I can use to bypass your human bots?
Do what the other snowflakes do and mute me. Not going to hurt my feelings.
Yeah, the specific format is called not being a dipshit but rather adding value to the chain. Instead of driving the car until the wheels falls off, it is about maintaining it which is what all abusers seem intent on NOT doing.
Steem is a microcosm of a bigger problem of people that don't understand the flow of causality and consequence. Instead they get pissy when people with foresight attempts to drop wisdom on their dense fucking heads. I'm done with you. You have proven to be incorrigible and not worth any more of my valuable time.
This is why we can't have nice things. Good luck with your spamming.
u mad bro?
Well he is in the same class as @ berniesanders, what did you expect?
Hardly.
Yeah right, he's driving people away! Maybe you should do some reading. Start with this... https://justpaste.it/1jpbl
I have no idea what SDL is and NO, I am not in any way associated. I'm just a victim of flagging abuse because bernie is an asshole. He is also a Steemit thief and does not know how to play by the rules, plain and simple, as obviously evidenced by that nice orange jumpsuit he owns. Maybe you don't pay much attention!
Our lord and saviour, Dan the Man, created something called proof-of-stake. Whereby everyone on the blockchain has a stake in it. Whether it be borrowed stake or invested stake doesnt matter. What does matter is what people choose to use their stake for. I use mine to distribute wealth, and to troll occasionally. You use yours to build automation systems for communities, and to troll occasionally. @steemflagrewards uses their stake to apply censorship to the blockchain, and to troll occasionally.
Only one of us are trying to negate the ability of other stake holders to do their thing.
You guessed it.
It's @steemflagrewards !!!
Thanks for taking the time to formulate a thoughtful response, @lanmower. However, I believe one of your underlying premises is flawed and I will explain why.
You assert that the issue is freedom of speech and, in order to help you out, I would like you to consider one question.
How often do you see us flagging content that has declined rewards?
I think you could figure what I'm getting at and believe this is where your argument begins to unravel. I think it is important you come to terms with the implication of this specifically in what it says about your actual position the feigned position you present.
If I am correct in my line of reasoning, your real issue is our affecting others freedom of extracting rewards or value from the network without making a meaningful contribution. That's our issue and, of course, it is subjective.
That is why I think your proposition that this can be achieved via a fully programmatic solution is a far cry from what can be achieved in reality at least not in a comprehensive sense.
Sure there is a higher degree of automation that can be achieved and I would like to work to that end but don't think it is wise to fully remove human judgment from the equation however imperfect it can be. Having both leaves us with a more robust solution.
I am one that believes also in the power of the human mind, the extraordinary creation that it is, is able to bolster programming in ways that AI or machine learning are not able... At least not yet
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