I think one of my disadvantages in conversations like these is my understanding of the universe itself, i was using the term "mother nature" in its metaphorical sense in reality i do believe the universe itself is concious, maybe not always but the universe as we know it, And just as our conscious selves try to use science and technology to try make sense of who we are and why we are here, the universe has been trying to do that ever since its gained conciousness, we are a result of that, we are part of the universe, the evolutionary expression of conciousness, its our job to make sense of all of this and science is the way we do that, but science is not finite so to believe in science is to be open minded enough to accept all possibilities even those that have yet to be understood. Yes I accept the possoblility that natural symbiosis exists because what didn't compromise became extinct and at the same time I accept the possibility that we are the product of a universe which is trying to understand itself, and personally I fond comfort in believing the latter :) thanks for your comment @elemenya