I think I found one "honest to goodness" counter logic/proof to whatever logic/proof the youtube guy on the this post is presenting (https://www.youtube.com/user/Alegzander1990) has presented, here it is:
Alegzander19905 days ago (edited)
Honest request here.
If the Earth is flat as you say, could you please explain sunset.I will elaborate my argument for you. How come the Sun goes bellow the horizon ? In the FE model, the Sun is supposedly at ~3000 miles altitude, yet it somehow goes bellow the horizon, when it reality it would NEVER EVER go bellow the horizon no matter how far away it would get.
Think of a right angled triangle (Such as this one.Open it in a new tab so you can stick with me on this : http://www.mathportal.org/calculators/plane-geometry-calculators/triangleRightAngle.gif), with the Sun at the top (point "B" in the picture), and your horizon line as the bottom side of the right angle (in the picture that would be "b", or the "CA" segment).The length of "b" also represents your distance, in length, from the Sun.The altitude of the Sun would be represented by the "CB" segment, and your relative position is "A". Now, while maintaining "CB" (the "altitude" of the Sun) constant, you can increase the "b" side / "CA" segment (your relative distance from the Sun along the flat plane) virtually as much as you want, and it would always remain a triangle, and the Sun would always be above your horizon line "b" (the "CA" segment).
Basically, on a FE, the Sun would only appear to shrink as it went further away, but it would never disappear, the way i see it. Now, the argument FE people make, is that it "disappears" because of perspective, but you have to keep in mind, the Sun is still pretty big, even in the FE theory, and more importantly it's VERY bright (it emits huge amounts of light).The Sun is the brightest thing in the sky.During daytime we can't see the stars because of the light of the Sun.Sure, us humans can't see infinitely, infact things on the Earth's surface are already kind of hard to make out, or even see at the "horizon limit", but that applies to relatively small objects compared to the Sun, they're not the brightest thing the human eye has ever experienced either, and they "reside" on the surface, not supposedly "3000 miles up in the sky".
IF IT WERE perspective, you should be able to bring the Sun back into view after sunset, by zooming on the "vanishing point" with a high powered zoom camera, like you see other people do with boats to "prove" the Earth is flat.But you can't do that, can you ? And this introduces my argument against the second proposed reason it supposedly disappears according to FE theory people, and that is atmosphere. Some people have actually tried to justify the inability to bring the Sun back into view right after sunset, by saying it was because of the atmosphere, basically once it got far away enough, it would be "hidden" by the air. No offence, but i call BULLSHIT on that one, and here's why : - First of all, the Sun is too big and bright for that to happen. - Second of all the "atmosphere" argument should apply always and in all directions.The stars are supposedly on the "dome ceiling", correct ? What altitude is that at ? What's that ?
Higher than the Sun, in the FE model ? Are they smaller than the Sun and do they also emit less light than the Sun, in the FE model ? How come we can STILL see them at night provided there's not substantial cloud coverage ? - Third of all, you can prove me wrong anytime by bringing the Sun back into view after sunset.You can choose whatever weather conditions you want.A clear day would be best for a few reasons, first and foremost to allow you to see that you STILL can't bring it back into view, thus confirming the Sun goes bellow the horizon (impossible on the FE model since the Sun is at 3000 miles altitude, which it maintains throughout it's "orbit of the stationary flat Earth") because we're actually turning away from it. P.S. If you do decide to try, make SURE the footage is NOT filmed at sea (for obvious reasons), and what you see is some distorted "hazy" image... - Last but not least, doesn't it seem strange that the atmosphere "obfuscation" effect would CONVENIENTLY "kick-in" right when the Sun has set ? Another point which someone else made, but i feel i MUST include aswell, is how come you can't see the North Star Polaris from every single place on Earth ? Quick read-up : http://www.space.com/15567-north-star-polaris.html Quote : "When you head south, the star drops lower and ultimately disappears once you cross the equator and head into the Southern Hemisphere."
I am not a scientist, nor do i believe everything the government or the scientific community says, i agree NASA are a bunch of lying crooks, and i also agree there are inconsistencies present in the Globe model (based on my knowledge and logical thinking based on that knowledge), and finally i agree the government these days is not to be trusted blindly, but COME ON PEOPLE. Anyways, the way I see it, the Earth is NOT flat, and the Sun setting and rising prove it.I am a fairly open minded person when it comes to accepting different views, but they have to have some actual functioning logic behind them. I hope i didn't come across as too "offensive", and if i did, i apologize; it was merely to express my point of view as closely as possible (to express how ridiculous some stuff seems to me). And finally, if anyone here has an actual argument to support sunset/sunrise on the FE model, i'll be glad to read it. Thanks for reading mine.
NOTE: emphasis are mine to highlight the most relevant portions**
This open minded logical and clearly presented counter reason is what I am looking for from an educated people and it can be found from this link.