Let's see, "Why do you insist on bringing scriptures into this?"
Because this is my post that you are responding to, and clearly I'm a Christian.
I could understand you asking that if I were responding to one of your messages. But I"m not. I responding to your response to my Christian message.
That question alone tells me that you are not serious. Like I said, I don't have time for games.
So the question I have for you is
Why would anyone think that they could gain understanding and know the creator through created things?
Why are you asking me questions about your own beliefs? I never said any such thing. What I said in my article is that we can see God's wisdom and glory in created things, but that doesn't make those things HIM. He made them.
And perhaps what you see as being "energy," are the sustaining forces within His creation.
There are four basic fundamental forces involved with holding things "together." These are: gravity, electromagnetic, and positive and negative forces.
Everything does have a sustaining energy. Here's what the bible says about it.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
They knew way back then that God's word has the power to hold things together.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Do you think that all of these living forces being so precise that if they weren't in place, everything would fly apart, can't be sustained by God?
His understanding is far higher and greater than ours. His word is living, When He speaks what He says happens. I think that perhaps you're mistaking your "energy" god with the real true God.
I gave you a direct quote from your article, there is no misinterpreting it. Unlike the bible there is not a thousand different translations about your words.
So again, I ask,why would anyone think that they could gain understanding and know the creator through created things?
I do not argue that god couldnt do these things, merely arguing that god is not nessisary for them to exist. If he actually exists, they may even be the reason for his existence. If god was just the first creation, then its not absurd to think he would be deluded by the fact into thinking he is somehow different.
Um, do you know how to copy and paste alex-draw. Copy and paste it in context. You've lost your game, and now you're just reaching.
I think you're referring to the basic principles of Pantheism. Don't you know your own beliefs?
Now, will you stop hijacking my thread?
Ill stop when you decide to stop attacking pantheism or only post your articles with a christian tags.
"So the question is, why would anyone think that they could gain understanding and know the creator through created things? There certainly are elements within creation that demonstrate God's wisdom and glory. A beautiful sunset would be one of those things, but the sunset itself could not teach me about the creator other than the fact that HE created some of the most powerful and magnificent things imaginable."
So by your own words, you can not attempt to understand god through the bible any more then you can through a book of my own creation.