From a slave to a master, chapter # 10 - The Dualistic Structure of relationships, part II

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A Memoir

Excerpt: In this second article, out of four, [read the first], I am discussing the “games” that spouses play with each other throughout the courting time. This is an inherent feature of the dualistic relationships that so many men and women find themselves imprisoned within. Why imprisoned? Because they are acting against the natural call of their soul, which simply wants to express its love and passion towards another human being, but now not able to, due to the chains that are placed by their egos.

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An excellent and common example of a game that almost every man and woman is playing is known as the “phone calls/sms” game. The man, who has already shown his romantic interest in the woman asks and receives her phone number. If he thinks at this point that the difficult part of the courting is behind him he is gravely wrong because the woman sees this small grace from her end merely as an invitation for a test under which the potential knight will need to prove himself worthy of her royal attention. This woman wears a cunning smile because she knows that from now on the man is destined to go through some hurdles until she will be fully responding to him. It’s common to notice that the more the woman is sophisticated, intelligent and rational the higher the number of those hurdles is and the harsher their qualities are.

For example – An episode that happens to many people - when the man finally makes the phone call he finds out that the girl is not answering. Either she is not there or cannot come to the phone. Therefore, with ease and self-assurance, he leaves her a message asking her to do the trivial thing and call him back. But - no chance for that to happen! She indeed will receive the message, will hear the request but at the same time will think with a slight contempt: “who does he think he is to fathom that I would run after him?!”. Therefore he will be ignored.

Obviously, the woman is well experienced in the game to know for sure that he will indeed call her again. Regarding the slight danger he might not, then at this stage the woman is still emotionally distant and lack the eagerness to have the suitor to herself and therefore can allow herself to take the risk; and in case that may happen, she will be comforted by self-convincing herself that she deserves someone who invests time and energy in the pursuit and who does not give up so soon. That woman, nevertheless, unconsciously represses the thought that the very such kind of behavior on her part might reject, in advance, any spouse who has evolved far beyond such courting childish games; A man who values himself enough to know that when he leaves a message it should be answered.

The average man, on his end, is aware of his role in the game. That is, he left the woman a message predicting she would not call back. Now, he waits for a few hours, perhaps a full day and calls her again. Will she now answer or will she want to test his perseverance? The answer depends on several elements: how sophisticated the girl is, the type of enjoyment she derives from the game, her level of self-esteem and whether or not she is a self-assured person.

It is worth mentioning that conclusively we are dealing with a game here, and as such it has rules and regulations that remain unclear for neutral spectators such as ourselves. When we visit a kindergarten, for example, and observe the infants quarrel in the sandbox we do not stop them or interfere with their doings regardless their messy, dirty or ugly behaviors. Why? Because “they are just children” and such a game is part of the growing process.

Another example is when we notice a little child trying endlessly to put together a ten pieces puzzle and as compassionate creatures we feel an urge to help him and end his frustration altogether. Nonetheless, as good parents we would know how important and vital such challenge Is for the child’s proper development and so we would remain neutral.

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The same applies to the loving honey-birds in our example who run the courting game. It would be futile to ask them for the cognitive reasons that caused them to entangle themselves in such tedious game which caused them to endure physical and mental impedances, to suffer body aches and broken hearts, only to reach at last the same place they would have gotten at, had they not immersed themselves in the dualistic game in the first place.

Individuals who choose to play the courting game collaborate with each other and draw an energy supply from the experience. They are fed by the interaction, are enriched by it and almost always they learn about their inner world and how it shapes their reality. Like the audience in a play, for us, who observe from the side, such a mental battling looks pointless, childish and frustrating to the extent that we feel compelled to speak up and give suggestions which, no matter what, are seldom heard and remain for the most part disregarded.

In our example, the man finally succeeded to speak with the woman who, from her part, became honey lipped and did give him an enthusiastic attention for she clearly knew that if she wanted to keep him and make him continue his perusal she would have to express some warmth, some caring and to a lesser extent submissive attitude. That being the case, the man enjoyed the conversation with the girl, was pleased by her interest in him, appreciated the shared experiences and their laughs together and overall spent time, gave the feeling that someone indeed cares for him and someone does love him.

The expected natural consequences are that the man is getting emotionally attached to the woman, something that she naturally welcomes. Their phone conversation ends with the man feeling exhilarated and wanting the woman more than ever before as he understands that the mutual interest will lead, eventually, to a relationship. Such recognition strengthens within him the satisfaction of his achievement and by that makes him feel a conqueror. (Some men need to brag to others and extend this false feeling of being powerful).

The woman, on her end, is aware of the fact that she charmed the man but she also knows how it was just a part of the game, an illusion, which predicts nothing about the future. She did not really reveal much, neither of herself nor of her intentions. If she did and for instance shared with the guy her fears of being abandoned he might run away or, even worse, despise her. Or so she thinks.

The woman does know that she gave her suitor a “good time” and awarded him with one more grace of hers. How many left? That depends, once again, on her self esteem. If it is low and she felt a lack of power by the giving per-se she would try to regain back some of it. It is the kingdom where the ego reins and it will do everything to keep her safe and unhurt. Therefore, an unsecured woman would slightly alter her behavior, enough to shake the man’s confidence and still keep him interested. Some women are real experts and delude the suitor time and again only to test his intentions, his inner strength, and general well-being. This so-called “bitchy” behavior is the hard-core version of the courting game and can easily reach unpleasant levels that might harm both the players. Needless to say that I do not advice this.

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The most amazing thing about these dualistic games is that both individuals suffer greatly and would prefer things to be otherwise but for certain reasons discussed hereinafter they can not let go and can not allow themselves to completely abandon the game.


In Part III - who to blame; the dire long-run influences of the “courting game” and more characteristics of the dualistic nature of relationships.


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These are just the exact mind games ladies play. Personally I've lost many girls because I refused to play along with these games. We men need to master controlling our emotions during these “phone calls/sms” games.

ersonally I've lost many girls

The ones who were not right for you, my friend!👍

the woman is sophisticated, intelligent and rational the higher the number of those hurdles is and the harsher their qualities are.

Can you imagine man testing woman the way women do? I can’t or in some cases I can, there are always exceptions. Women are very well known to think everything throughout or even overthink things. Man thinks much simpler way. That’s good, because opposites atract. It’s exactly the same with animals. Male birds dance, sing... it’s nature! There always have to be chased and chaser. Being chaser doesn’t mean not being dominant, in my opinion it actualy means the exact opposite. It’s good to let women think they are the leaders, they are the dominant one’s once the relationship grows. I think it’s a great recipe for great and long lasting relationship. At the same time women must be smart enough not to become too obnoxious, you know what I mean “too much” to become a headache 🤕 lol. It can eventually turn in to disaster as well. Than I would advice them to sit and talk it through. Of course, sometimes you can see women chasing man, which means that women is the real dominant person here and always will be. But that’s my experience and my opinion.

The woman does know that she gave her suitor a “good time” and awarded him with one more grace of hers...

A kiss on the cheek? 😆

A kiss on the cheek? 😆

Depends on which kind of a kiss and which cheek exactly 😉

Can you imagine man testing woman the way women do?

Unfortunately, women have adopted the male rational approach rather than staying true to their intuitive wisdom

i think this game is for mental test. the one who can fight his/her ego wil find the way in solving problem of this game. If man and woman stay on each ego there will be no way out but separate.

Indeed!👍

Hello @nomad-magus, I felt many times identified with each paragraph, really the relationships begin with the same method, they are customs that come from our families, although I had my doubts about how relationships began in other customs, in short, being this custom of men to take the first step and women act perhaps in an evaluative function, I wonder if it is the right way to start a relationship?

Human beings have evolved, women already have a great deal of participation in all areas, yet it is still right to let men do the work? What if the woman does not want the evaluation process? What if she believes in love at first sight? I think we have topics for many publications, I enjoy your work friend, thank you very much for showing us a new vision

come from our families

.... much much earlier. It comes from a long and old lineage of ancestors.

Thank you🙏

Interesting post my teacher @nomad-magus
Because of this many times human people began to forget the existence of the concept of duality (principle of dualism) in life ... it's only natural some of them being too focused to pursue chased the empirical truth (fact), most are too engrossed in the world of surfing non speculative thinking. whereas the concept of duality is a concept that was born from a God created everything in pairs ... ....

For example – An episode that happens to many people - when the man finally makes the phone call he finds out that the girl is not answering. Either she is not there or cannot come to the phone. Therefore, with ease and self-assurance, he leaves her a message asking her to do the trivial thing and call him back. But - no chance for that to happen! She indeed will receive the message, will hear the request but at the same time will think with a slight contempt: “who does he think he is to fathom that I would run after him?!”. Therefore he will be ignored.

In my opinion.
From this example shows
The concept of duality meniscayakan two-paced two pairs in the good life that is outwardly like the existence of the day, and night, light and dark, life and death, old, young, man, and woman, rich, and poor, and others, or that is abstract as there is right, and wrong, baik-buruk, causes, and consequences, wise, cunning, and perfect, and not perfect, bahagi, and derita, love, hate, etc. though between the two areas that have clearly shown that there is area ' between ' the unclear his identity in the concept of duality--or who are still sketchy but life is not that rests above the same concept, but rather a clear concept of the duality of the above credentials as clear as the identity of the man and woman in a the perspective of the relationship.

Thanks for this my teacher

👍I am glad you don't you hold back your thohghts.

Thanks my teacher

courting game surely has the tendency to make or mar the relationship, it depends on how well both party allow maturity to help them play the game.

Impatient man might see it as if the woman does not have interest in him at all and force him to change his mind, but woman need it to test the level of love the man claim to have for her...

The balance is in the middle, courting game should be allowed but it should not take so much time.

Once the woman knows she's interested in the man too, she should try and take it easy with him

Thanks for this great insight, can't wait for the third part... Smile

need it to test the level of love the man claim to have for her...

..exactly, and I ask, why the tests in the first place...?😌

I really like and love all, the instance you stood too in order to convey your message, everything you mentioned is actually true and correct, but it depends on this level of one's experience and stages in this life as far as gaming is concerned just like a new maiden and guy that just met, the more experiences has the edge over another.

one's experience and stages

... and maturity

This will depend on the upbringing of the lady. Someone who has been through a lot pain will surely take time and sometimes do some tests
to know the guy more. But of course these are thr games that both men and women do to test a relationship. Thank you very much @nomad-magus!😊

I would say, then, that the lady should consider releasing the pains she still carries before engaging in a new relationship.

@nomad-magus .. I last night dreamed a goat back home my cabin was a very loud voice on my doorstep whether it was bad or not.

I told you, there are no bad dreams.
Not for you, anyway. 👍😊

Yes tetapih I takot that may ghost @nomad-mag..

yes what you say is true, women often challenge us, sometimes the challenges given are difficult for us to go through. so why nowadays many of the dark sacrifices of men end up in vain. because women often think of men's struggles as meaningless to them ..

I wait for your dream story @nomad-magus

I wait for your dream story @nomad-magus

Tomorrow or on Tuesday.

I am not a fan of the dualistic nature. I just directly and boldly go for what I want. No games. We're too old to be toying with our emotions and time.

Sir @nomad-magus a very interesting and informative post you share, I will not say more than that the maturity is the important in all steps of our life, positive mind is also contributed in our beautiful relationship and life.
Thanks for sharing sir

Lolz this dualistic nature of the courting game is quite interesting to some and tiring to many like me.

I love the example you gave but that doesn't go quite well with what I can do. For me, once I give you the call and leave a message and you don't return the message, if i get to call one more time and you do not pick, I would just conclude you are not interested in me and so I will step aside .

Another thing that happens is when you get to collect the woman's number and don't call back. Days or weeks after, the woman would always Call back to know why you didn't call. It has always worked for my friends.the reason the woman calls is because, she doesn't really understand why you would take her number and refuse to call, you lower her self esteem by doing that and make her feel she isn't good enough. When she finally calls, you have gotten her interest and can now say all the sweet things you want to say to her.

@Nomad magus.. This is an amazing content on relationship,,The game "phone call/sms" can't express the actual feeling on ..It is just an attraction,,
I think this is not good at all..@upvoted

Hey, @nomad-magus this is amazing post.thanks for share The Dualistic Structure of relationships, part II .....
Really this post is so interesting.

If he thinks at this point that the difficult part of the courting is behind him he is gravely wrong because the woman sees this small grace from her end merely as an invitation for a test under which the potential knight will need to prove himself worthy of her royal attention. This is so true ... if I had not read this, I won't have really have thought that this was intentional

Then there is a need for some one to always be patient before he/she makes a decision to commit him/her self in a relation.

There is a saying:

Patience pays even though it pains to wait

In order for people to avoid such sufferings. They need to date for quite some time, studying each other to see whether there passions match.

Thanks so much @nomad-magus for sharing.

This entry concerns dualism in the philosophy of mind. The term ‘dualism’ has a variety of uses in the history of thought. In general, the idea is that, for some particular domain, there are two fundamental kinds or categories of things or principles In theology, for example a ‘dualist’ is someone who believes that Good and Evil—or God and the Devil—are independent and more or less equal forces in the world. Dualism contrasts with monism, which is the theory that there is only one fundamental kind, category of thing or principle; and, rather less commonly, with pluralism, which is the view that there are many kinds or categories.

This game is for time passing enjoyment!!!!!
There have no feelings, just take this easy.
Thanks for sharing @nomad-magus

It is an illusion, which predicts nothing about the future.Just as enjoyment for a while,,
LOL game!!!

This is not stable !!!!!!
just an attraction,,

Great content @nomad-magus..
Thanks for sharing

It felt as like as phone sex!!!!!
LOL!!!!
I think
Most of lesbian are do this,,
Nice content @nomad-magus

Yeah I agree this Line, We men need to master controlling our emotions during these “phone calls/sms” games.

Thank You So Much for share The Dualistic Structure of relationships, part II

Its really really nice advice for us.

The most amazing thing about these dualistic games is that both individuals suffer greatly and would prefer things to be otherwise but for certain reasons discussed hereinafter they can not let go and can not allow themselves to completely abandon the game
Well... From this part we can take the simple phrase "life ia game without undo and extra life" so this is really great game for prepare to rebirth day in akhirat...

a game that is very likely to happen to every individual. and there is nothing wrong because taste is a great desire.

המשחק הכפול זה משהו שנכפה עלינו אולי אבולוציונית אבל עם מודעות ועבודה אולי נוכל לשנות דברים ולהציל עצמנו מהיסורים שהזכרת...

I want to share something with you why a girl likes us whether we should be close to her. I'm surprised a woman likes the same 100 likes fearing 1000's why @nomad-mag..

Not sure I understood. Rephrase your Q please.

Call Game make women better than man, thats simple, she talk anything, and we the man think all of her talked

The average man, on his end, is aware of his role in the game. That is, he left the woman a message predicting she would not call back. Now, he waits for a few hours, perhaps a full day and calls her again. Will she now answer or will she want to test his perseverance? The answer depends on several elements: how sophisticated the girl is, the type of enjoyment she derives from the game, her level of self-esteem and whether or not she is a self-assured person.
The man finally succeeds to speak with the woman who, from her part, became honey lipped and did give him an enthusiastic attention for she clearly knew that if she wanted to keep him and make him continue his perusal she would have to express some warmth, some caring and to a lesser extent submissive attitude.

Women hate to be ignored by men because it makes them feel helpless. One day he is giving you all the attention you crave then suddenly you can’t get so much as an “I’m busy right now” text. Cutting off a woman’s attention supply typically makes a woman desperate to get that attention back. Most women come emotionally unhinged by being ignored. Men know this and will use it against you to get what they want. If you find a man is ignoring you, it is time you realized you have overstayed your welcome. Time to walk because any future attention you get will be inferior to the previous attention. The moment a man’s silent treatment game works is the day he knows he has you wrapped around his finger.

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