Many times when a lady says No, she means it. Not that she is playing games or so
But some guys won't listen, they start thinking that she doesnt mean it, she's only playing games, etc.
Sometimes, the persistence can make the lady tired of her life, then she will say yes.
Then the guy counts victory, because sometimes the lady falls in love
lols! I do not understand your parables here! It seems you came to confuse me more? lols!