This planet - being an expression of life - is evolving towards a balance that fully respects life and will no longer support death - so what I personally think is not so much the issue here. The issue is that of the karmic effects that are caused by the action of each individual - which they will all have to balance in their own process - but not necessarily on Earth.
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Oh honey, life and death are inextricably entwined, it is a sacred dance. Life without death becomes meaningless. But whatever, I still think you are a cutie, and know you are trying damned hard to make this world a better place and that is awesome.
Thanks for your kind words. Death is not 'natural', 'necessary' or the intended destiny for living beings. Life is vibration and death is the ending of vibration - it is only the spirit part of self that survives physical death and goes on to reincarnate - however, this is only a fraction of the totality of self and without the parts that really are dying, eventually life will not be able to continue due to loss of vibrational power.
Ending death is a requirement for life now.
Please see my reply to the other commenter here. Makes me sad that you fall into this excuse to judge your fellow humans. Unfollowing, sadly.
I am not judging anyone here - I am describing physical and spiritual reality that is evidenced all around.
Agreed.
Death is part of life. It's not a choice.
Murder on the other hand is a choice.
I explain some of why death is not part of life, here
Death of the body is part of this life.
You acknowledge this, right?
Death and life are opposites - so saying that death is part of life is like saying that silence is part of sound. Neither statement is correct. While our minds are often conditioned to define one from each of these two pairs of opposites as being relative to it's opposite concept, the reality is that you will not find silence in sound, sound in silence, death in life or life in death.
Death of the body is a process and experience that can be encountered as part of creation and existence - however, that does not mean that death is part of life. I feel that there is a gap being presented here in the defining of the word 'life' - whereby the word 'life' is being used to describe existence itself - rather than the state of being that life really is.
Does that make sense?
Yes. I see where you are coming from.
Death is part of 'this' life, though.
I used the term 'life' as meaning 'this material existence'.
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My garden failed this year, grasshoppers ate everything. Still, I can feed 100 people this winter if I need to. I live the life I live that I may feed the hungry when disaster strikes, as I believe is fairly imminent. I cannot feed masses of people vegetables, I cannot grow enough of them and the climate here is too harsh for it to be feasible.
Holding a value system that requires you feel morally superior to others is dicey karma. Good luck with that.
Again, I am simply describing the reality of our deeply out of balance planet and the associated vibrational physics. Karma is cause and effect, not a balance of payments and judgement.
For the animals, disaster strikes every day through our denial of the ways of balance on Earth.
Your words: 'Vegans really do think plants are not as valued as animals, and I find that a little less than conscious... but I still love my vegan friends.'
Is that the kind of value system you mean? ;)
Good luck then!
Ps: now if you hadn't left this thread you could try and point out where I showed a value system like that. Would have been interesting.
PPS: Just checked your blog.
Had no idea you were 'enlightened'.
Now I understand...