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Knowingness seems somewhat mystical. Perhaps you could better define it, as I may be confusing it with faith.

"without belief we are more able to understand phenomena..."

Unless we believe (or perhaps you might say 'know') that our perceptions are actually perceptions, rather than hallucinations, or imagination, we are unable to understand - at all - that we are even perceiving. Further, what we believe about the world empowers us to interpret our perceptions such that we can understand their context.

For example, if we believe we are in an unlit dungeon and chained to a table, a sharp pain in our big toe might be perceived as the cruel act of a torturer, while if we believe we are sleeping and experiencing sleep paralysis, that same pain might simply be interpreted as a cramp.

It is what we believe about the world that informs us what we are perceiving, and enables us to understand those perceptions.

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Knowingness seems somewhat mystical. Perhaps you could better define it, as I may be confusing it with faith.

Knowningness is the state of being that results from knowledge. For example, I know I exist and thus knowingness is allowed within me regarding that aspect of life for me. Knowingness is not in any way mystical - in fact, to me it is the opposite of mystical, since mysticism implies a degree of uncertainty to me.

In your example of the toe pain it is belief that facilitates the inaccurate perception, whereas knowingness leaves no space for inaccurate perception - we will simply know all facets of our experience in the correct way and in totality.

"In your example of the toe pain it is belief that facilitates the inaccurate perception..."

Which perception is the erroneous one? Absent belief it is impossible to claim to know.

I appreciate your engagement on this matter. As it is a diversion from your important post, I am going to defer further discussion to a different venue (a post I am making now), so as not to 'hijack' your post.

I find all of your posts very valuable, and don't want to further digress from their points here.

If you'd like to continue this discussion, I am more than willing, but I hope to avoid diluting your message here.

No problem, I don't really stick to rigid rules about topics for comment threads - but if you want to create a new post, then go for it.

I'm not a stickler for rule either, but I feel like I am derailing your post from it's very important message, and I don't want to do that.

Come here, if you will, to consider belief, 'knowingness', and how we know what we think we know, and set me straight.

No one would benefit more than I from being better informed how to reason =)