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RE: Owen Smith and His Challenge To Article 50

in #politics8 years ago

I have been following the #brexit situation closely. After the final results, the situation got really out of hand. And the one that voted "leave" regretted their decision. I suppose if there is a 2nd referendum, the results would be different, seeing how Scotland reacted to "leave" results. Now, that Cameron is out of the game, I expect a different result. I strongly believe that people voted "leave" because of Cameron figure. His influence dropped significantly after his father's involvement in Panama paper came in the spotlight. There are also factors to consider such as lack of youth engaged in politics. Farage and Boris made a fool of themselves. In the end, I would really love to see a 2nd referendum. After #brexit, majority of Europeans realized that EU is founded in order to diminish power competition between West Europeans countries and maintain peace in the region and all over the world. (mind you: both world wars started in Europe)

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Leaving will benefit England if their loving overlords allow it to continue.
The EU needs to delever and power down.

they are already delivering. I still don't see how leaving EU is going to benefit UK, while at the same time there are so many UK projects funded by EU and many SME benefits from free movement of people and money among EU countries.

funded by EU what?
who? their taxes? their banks?
If the UK need those projects they'll need to pay for them themsleves.
Its very simple, are you for decentralizing govt, or centralizing it?
Do you think its a good idea to belong to a political body in Brussels that won't allow your MP to vote on legislation? Why are they there? For moral support?
How is this a representative govt? Or is it not supposed to be? If so, my bad.

@thebluepanda its not a prediction, there is nothing to predict.
NOT paying a central govt in BRUSSELS to make decisions NOT in England's interest, is always a good thing. Taking back your power to make decisions in your interest is also a good thing. Giving your power away to people who do not live NEAR you is a bad thing. This is called decentralization. This is what made the US a great nation, until our States began relying too much on D.C. (this must stop)
I'm not sure why you think a parliament wherein your representative has NO power AT ALL is good?
The EU is a top down power structure.
Do you realize this?

I am much more interested on how do you predict UK will be better off EU. I am still waiting for people that support #brexit for at least a valid argument.

It's a shame you share Owen Smith's vision of a tinpot democracy. If you look at the stats on this, polling data indicates that only 5% of those who voted to leave regret doing so and the same is true of those who voted to remain as well. Youth voters, me being one, have no excuse for such a poor turn out on their part. There is even proof that David Cameron sought to haul in as much of the youth vote as possible in the referendum by advertising the need to register to vote on Facebook to exclusively young voters.

As for Johnson and Farage, they made quite the opposite of fools of themselves, didn't they? After all, it was they who won the vote.

Your praise of the EU as an organisation 'for peace' is very telling indeed. Tell me, how has it helped to foster peace in the Ukraine when its officials, such as Catherine Ashton, actively encouraged revolution alongside the Americans? Did it help to prevent the break-up of Yugoslavia? The EU did not form into the political union you praise it as being until the early 1990s. What kept European countries from warring with one another after 1945 and the USSR at bay was NATO. Diplomacy is not exclusive to the existence of a political union which undermines the sovereignty of its members.

are you from Serbia? :)