WTF that has to actually do with anything. Capitalism has worked and works in so many places and does not exclude democracy. Ussr was central-capitalism, communist utopy can not be reached.
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WTF that has to actually do with anything. Capitalism has worked and works in so many places and does not exclude democracy. Ussr was central-capitalism, communist utopy can not be reached.
Not really, and revolutionary spain is still an example.
If the workplace (the thing that literally runs society) is not democratic, then the society is not democratic.
Capitalism has nothing non-democratic in it.
to sum it up, a society is not democratic until the workers themselves control the means of production through democracy. Anything other than that is false democracy.
Let me give an example. Steem.
Where is the democracy in steem? It could take tens of thousands of professors new to the platform to overturn the vote of one random conspiracy theorist who got here early and is downvoting useful science
how democratic is that?
I did not downvote by the way. I still disagree.
i was not talking about you, just an example from this platform that is repeated daily.
How can you disagree?
What makes democracy apply to anything other than people themselves?
People can control goverment and trough it state and trough state capital. Modern democracy is not truly bringing what it promises, but I do believe that implication of ''counter-votes'' and basic income it can be fixed.
What do you mean by this? If people do not directly control it through democracy it is not democratic.
counter votes? That sounds like a process within democracy, not a system to make something democratic.
Basic income won't give the workers much more control over the means of production (and I've made arguments that it will give less). That has nothing to do with democracy either.
alright I got an idea.
Define democracy
definition of democracy -"control of an organization or group by the majority of its members."
Private property is the relation of the worker to the owner. The owner of private property necessarily controls everything on that property, including the labor of the workers.
Democracy and private property, the literal basis of capitalism, are incompatible