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For me it isn't about that. You mentioned how if she did certain things they would impeach her.

While you are likely right, I also don't think people standing up for the right things should be impeached. The fact that they can be is a problem.

I also do not consider people a good choice if that is the reason they still do wrong.

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but do you believe in changing things from the inside?

I told you about that on my post I wrote at your request about my time in the GOP. That was us attempting on doing exactly that.

In some cases it can work. In some systems it becomes so corrupt and they close all doors adversaries could attempt to use, and at that point fighting from within doesn't really work.

That is how the two big parties in the U.S. are starting to be.

I am increasingly thinking the world is headed for some really dark times. I don't know what FORM those will come in, but I think we may need to focus on survival of ourselves, and our loved ones. If we focus on someone (even if it is generations from now) coming out into the light then that may be the best we can do.

That does not mean I will not keep fighting. I just don't see an obvious opening yet. An uncensored place like steemit, and uncensored blockchain governance have some possibilities, but I don't think the public is quite ready for that. Many of us are. I do not think the masses understand critical thinking and reason well enough to push responsibility onto them. Those type of people still outnumber the people like us.

"I told you about that on my post I wrote at your request about my time in the GOP. That was us attempting on doing exactly that."

I felt your pain, but my curiosity was stronger, I am sorry, truly

glad to hear, that you are at least not giving up on reforming from within.

The only solution I see right now is to destroy the whole damn way we do government and build it new according to the technology of 2017. In example 100% transparency

But I respect someone who tries to change things from within, like Merkel :P

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There is also a huge difference in power over the government. The American President has much more possibilities than the German Chancellor.

Patriot Act = Ermächtigungsgesetz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_act

Yep. Many(EDIT: I'm chaning this to SOME OF US) of us saw that when it was coming out. Like I said I've been interested in Germany for a long time. I first became interested when I was 6 years old, and then it was me just playing war games with toys that I made rules for. It only grew from there.

So yes I am aware of the rise of the National Socialist Workers party, the Reichstag fire, fall of the Weimar Republic, etc.

I see a lot of similar things happening in my country, and OTHER countries as well. It is becoming a global problem.

I watched Leni Riefenstahl: Fest der Völker it was so good, but so propaganda... The Nazis did some awesome stuff actually and many people (especially foreigners no offense) thin that all Germans were doing was killing Jews all day. Most of the people were unaware of what was happening to them.

The Nazis managed to get to 0% unemployment by pushing the weapon industry. Why cant your government do the same even tho they spent so much on military?

But I agree, that actual nazis are undermining people like me. I make jokes like above, but there are people who take it a few steps further.
Those nazis can live among us, because we dont exclude them... I like that. I dont want to exclude them. I want to convince them. As you would say, they are disabling theirselves by being a label not a thinker. ;)

Right now if you watch the Antifa movement (which has now spread to Europe as well) they call for the end of Fascism and call opponents Nazis.

Yet if they actually knew their history they may realize that they are the ones acting like fascists and using similar techniques to say the Brown Shirts.

"Right now if you watch the Antifa movement (which has now spread to Europe as well) they call for the end of Fascism and call opponents Nazis."

Wow, I still get to be an arrogant jerkface >:). The antifa is deeply rooted in Europe. We have had them for ages. https://eng.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa

Im honestly quite shocked you don't know. It has been the militant arm of the left. I mean at least from prison (A. Brotherhood) you should have some militants right wingers. Now you got left wingers as well. It's no big deal, let the cops beat the shit out of them. They do that every 1st May in Germany Hamburg, burning cars, fireworks. A friend of mine wanted to just watch the spectacle ones and got a huge bruise from a cop stick xD. We actually take that quite sportlich ([lit.]sporty, leisure) in Germany.

I am also not talking about true Anti-Fascism. Yes, that has been around a very long time.

The movement we have clearly has not clue what fascism is, and how it came to power in the past, because they use the exact same techniques and act the same. Brutal intolerance.

just so you see im not just talking out of my ass 1. May 2001 in Germany

I actually heavily disagree, extrem right and extrem left has never been about dialouge. Both sides see themselves at war with each other since at least one century. Antifa and Skinheads are the ones that want to use violence. Even though a burning car never brought a revolution. You need the military on your side for a forceful revolution... actually you should really keep that in mind, a lot of your vets seem rather red-pilled.

Also the cops have been ignoring them while they've been attacking bystanders, burning shit, and turning protests into violent protests here.

bad/stupid cops then. The police in Germany is pretty easy going in general, but, I told you this urge for justice, if they see random violence against innocent people, they go apesh*t. That's how my friend got hurt. Police hammering at everything that was suspicious and running away.

They are a fairly recent thing in the U.S. since this last election cycle. I mentioned I'd been seeing them active in Europe recently and it was another European that told me that had only recently come over there.

Do they act the same as the antifa we have in the U.S.?

If so, man I am sorry for you guys.

especially foreigners no offense

None taken. I am one of those that know Hitler did quite a few good things as well. I also know some of his decisions he was forced into doing by the actions of the people that have since written the history.

That doesn't mean Hitler was not also bad. He definitely was.

Yet, most people have no clue about the good he did, and how he was forced into some of the acts that they call him a villain for.