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RE: You're being told a BIG LIE by the MSM again. It must be Tuesday. Again.

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If I get a speeding ticket I broke the law. I accept my consequences and pay my fine. Even if it's a law I don't personally agree with (seatbelts)... the law is the law. Without it there would be no order.
As far as our presidents bombing other people to protect "American interests" that's bull shit... they did that because they like to interfere in shit that ain't our business.. and for profit...y'all got right to be mad about that... but if you come to our country or we go to yours the law must still be obeyed

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Order? So we must be ordered now?

Please, if it would be the crown. Can I smoke a blunt in my room without fear of imprisonment or the very possible fear of execution by the police.

There is a fine line where we must determine what is moral and what is not. You conclude that people should be deported because it is the law and thus is moral because it's law. Or do you have another justification for deportation to be moral?

So what do you say about civil rights movements? Civil disobedience? Etc. I suppose the creation of this country (USA). I guess they all should have just followed the law, according to your position. Instead of avoiding taxes, the founders of this country should have not started a violent uprising and just wait it out. Martin Luther King Jr. Shouldn't have promoted nonviolent civil disobedience and just told everyone to wait it out as well. You see your position is just as dangerous and weak as anyone else in history who just wanted to wait things out to see where they would go. It's cowardly.

Now instead of waiting things out, you want people to obey your bullshit laws because you particular like a certain set of laws that you think is moral.
Law does not equal morality and learning from the founders of this country, from civil rights movements and the creation of Bitcoin and Steem these were all movements against their respective governments not in support of it.

There are tons of laws I think are bullshit and shouldn't be there but they are. And should be enforced. Some of our laws are immoral. We are not perfect. Do we need a revolution? Probably. But if you choose to live somewhere you should abide by their laws... we (USA) didn't like your laws. Rather than try to overthrow your country we left and made our own.

Thanks Dave. Congress makes laws, not the President.

And if you aren't following the law, you need to accept the punishment

deferred actions and executive orders are legal actions by the presidents and they only become illegal if federal judges or civil groups make a claim and take it to court, and only after it has been challenged and deemed illegal do they become illegal. That is the essence of law.

Or the next President decides to rip up the Executive Order of the previous, which makes it null and void.

If you really want long term confidence for the Dreamers, you should be exceptionally happy that Trump ripped up the piece of paper Obama wrote and Trump challenged Congress to write a bill with a permanent solution.

It should make you happy that a permanent solution is coming, as opposed to have to live indefinitely with the paper Obama wrote that was subject to change at any time by any future President.

I highly doubt Trump will do anything positive for illegal immigrants or immigrants as a whole given his latest moves and his constant rhetoric and antagonization of foreign nations.

It's only fair. When that American got caned in Singapore he deserved it. He broke their laws. I didn't bitch it was unfair... if i break a law i expect to be punished if caught... and I accept the consequences... if someone else breaks the law and there are no consequences for them how is that fair to me? The law is the law. If you don't like it there are steps you can take to change it

They didn't "leave"... They murdered people and attacked the innocent to form their "nation". Quit ignoring history. America was a colony of the English empire. They were not sovereign. They broke the laws and the "American founders" were enemies of the state... They were terrorists.

Oh i get that they murdered and attacked people... I'm part Cherokee Indian... how could I not understand...

Was a colony of the English empire.. y'all should have enforced your law of you felt we broke it.... oh you tried... yes our founding fathers were terrorists... they recognized that the English were weak and couldn't protect what they thought was theirs... the terrorists took charge... that's called a revolution..