Man you sure put a lot of work into this. There is so much to get into it is pretty crazy. But I am not going to put a lot of work on that because you are using fear to push so many points. You call out the deaths of this as being more than from a War. What the hell kind of comparison is that. Only the soldiers on the front lines die in war besides some bystanders or accidents. Covid can kill anyone here. You ignore the % chance to die is getting smaller and smaller. You sure a study he ignored that said 2 million will die when we are on pace for way less. You are blind to the face that COVID is a Co-morbidity it almost all deaths. Look into death from Flu or Pneumonia right now how are they all down? Oh because they now call those covid deaths. You ignore that if you are young and healthily this thing has like a .002% to kill you and you have around a 90% to only get a little sick. When this ends of deaths stay this low we are going to look back at all these steps like a waste. Because of the damage it is going to do to the economy. That pain is still coming. States are broke. The fight over money is going to be epic. Social programs are going to cut back. This is all due to a massive lack of tax Revenue. Hell I am not even sure that won’t ruin me. But sure Blame Trump. Pretty easy to do. He isn’t perfect at all. But this attack piece is using hand picked facts and stories to just make him look bad. No credit for what he has done. Not all perfect but he reacted much better than you paint here. I mean 2 million where supposed to die we are not even at 100k yet.
Because state governments started reacting and ordering social distancing, shelter-in-place, etc. We've been flattening the curve... later than we should have. The federal government mostly just got in the way.
Not really true. The federal government couldn’t really stop the states. Also the data from countries that didn’t shelter in place is almost the same as those that didn’t. To boot antibody testing is starting to show the Disease is already here. Also in CA we just had big crowds at the beaches and other protest some events over 2 weeks back and no big spike in cases. Listen if your older or have a pre existing condition maybe stay home be a bit lore careful but the healthy and young need to go back to work. It is doing more harm to them than the sickness can. Be sick for two weeks or losing everting I have? Hmm sickness at my age is like 99.998 I won’t die and 96% I won’t even be in the hospital. But I have to hide in my house? Why? Because some model said 2 million would die. And we are not even close to that.
The Federal Government and most Government is exactly the problem. Whether or not it was a Dem/Repub/Independent/Green in the White House "overseeing 350million people" isn't the point, the point is that it is impossible to correctly do almost anything for one person overseeing that many people.
You could have the best person and smartest person in the world doing the job of being a President, it still isn't feasible to expect one person to correctly make so many decisions.
Most State Governments are too big too and don't make any sense. Once you start having one person in charge of more than a few thousand people it largely stops making any sense. Power/greed/corruption takes over.
All political parties in the USA are corporations. They are literally classified as corporations. We vote for figure heads of a corporation to oversee is and run us like a corporation. They also in turn take bribes from other corporations to write laws that favor them.
It is mafia style illegitimate the whole way up and down.
That's where proper institutions and planning come into play. Yes, one human Great Leader doesn't scale. However, an institution that plans ahead and inter-disciplinary teams and honest planning for the situations within its purview, and then activate them when needed, that can scale.
That's exactly what Trump dismantled, in the form of the pandemic preparedness office. There are lots of non-political agencies that do their job and do it well because they're run by experts in the field rather than political appointees. Or, rather, that was the case until Trump decided to politicize them, too.
Good government is hard to scale, but it can be done. Abusive government can exist at any size.
(The absence of government lasts for about 15 minutes until hierarchies start to form on their own and some gang leader starts playing king of the hill.)
Government largely isn't preventative they are reactionary in most things. Humans are the same way.
Everything is politicized because it is about power. Those who want to wield power over others are controllers.
I am not interested in the garbage governments that Democracy produces. Democrazy is 51 wolves and 49 sheep voting on what is for dinner. We are all slaves to the state and are born into it, literally nothing about any governments of the world is voluntary. Every law we have on the books is backed by threat of putting someone in a rape cage AKA prison(which doesn't rehabilitate anyone to put them through trauma) or backed by the point of a gun because "I said so".
Trump should dismantle everything he can, he should sign an executive order today and permanently eliminate Presidential elections, ban them from ever happening again, and resign as President. Everyone in the FBI/CIA and all these psycho control groups should be immediately fired as they are all unelected. If they are so important they can be elected and held to account.
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For future reference, I said above that we can't blame Trump for the pandemic itself. However... on further review, that may actually be the case.
It wasn't just the US's domestic response that Trump destroyed. It was the US's key position in the international early warning network to spot new diseases before they even become epidemics, much less pandemics:
Wow, impressive article.
Running out of time to read it fully, but I know what it deserves for sure:
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Man you sure put a lot of work into this. There is so much to get into it is pretty crazy. But I am not going to put a lot of work on that because you are using fear to push so many points. You call out the deaths of this as being more than from a War. What the hell kind of comparison is that. Only the soldiers on the front lines die in war besides some bystanders or accidents. Covid can kill anyone here. You ignore the % chance to die is getting smaller and smaller. You sure a study he ignored that said 2 million will die when we are on pace for way less. You are blind to the face that COVID is a Co-morbidity it almost all deaths. Look into death from Flu or Pneumonia right now how are they all down? Oh because they now call those covid deaths. You ignore that if you are young and healthily this thing has like a .002% to kill you and you have around a 90% to only get a little sick. When this ends of deaths stay this low we are going to look back at all these steps like a waste. Because of the damage it is going to do to the economy. That pain is still coming. States are broke. The fight over money is going to be epic. Social programs are going to cut back. This is all due to a massive lack of tax Revenue. Hell I am not even sure that won’t ruin me. But sure Blame Trump. Pretty easy to do. He isn’t perfect at all. But this attack piece is using hand picked facts and stories to just make him look bad. No credit for what he has done. Not all perfect but he reacted much better than you paint here. I mean 2 million where supposed to die we are not even at 100k yet.
Because state governments started reacting and ordering social distancing, shelter-in-place, etc. We've been flattening the curve... later than we should have. The federal government mostly just got in the way.
Not really true. The federal government couldn’t really stop the states. Also the data from countries that didn’t shelter in place is almost the same as those that didn’t. To boot antibody testing is starting to show the Disease is already here. Also in CA we just had big crowds at the beaches and other protest some events over 2 weeks back and no big spike in cases. Listen if your older or have a pre existing condition maybe stay home be a bit lore careful but the healthy and young need to go back to work. It is doing more harm to them than the sickness can. Be sick for two weeks or losing everting I have? Hmm sickness at my age is like 99.998 I won’t die and 96% I won’t even be in the hospital. But I have to hide in my house? Why? Because some model said 2 million would die. And we are not even close to that.
The Federal Government and most Government is exactly the problem. Whether or not it was a Dem/Repub/Independent/Green in the White House "overseeing 350million people" isn't the point, the point is that it is impossible to correctly do almost anything for one person overseeing that many people.
You could have the best person and smartest person in the world doing the job of being a President, it still isn't feasible to expect one person to correctly make so many decisions.
Most State Governments are too big too and don't make any sense. Once you start having one person in charge of more than a few thousand people it largely stops making any sense. Power/greed/corruption takes over.
All political parties in the USA are corporations. They are literally classified as corporations. We vote for figure heads of a corporation to oversee is and run us like a corporation. They also in turn take bribes from other corporations to write laws that favor them.
It is mafia style illegitimate the whole way up and down.
@truthforce writing on this shared account.
That's where proper institutions and planning come into play. Yes, one human Great Leader doesn't scale. However, an institution that plans ahead and inter-disciplinary teams and honest planning for the situations within its purview, and then activate them when needed, that can scale.
That's exactly what Trump dismantled, in the form of the pandemic preparedness office. There are lots of non-political agencies that do their job and do it well because they're run by experts in the field rather than political appointees. Or, rather, that was the case until Trump decided to politicize them, too.
Good government is hard to scale, but it can be done. Abusive government can exist at any size.
(The absence of government lasts for about 15 minutes until hierarchies start to form on their own and some gang leader starts playing king of the hill.)
Government largely isn't preventative they are reactionary in most things. Humans are the same way.
Everything is politicized because it is about power. Those who want to wield power over others are controllers.
I am not interested in the garbage governments that Democracy produces. Democrazy is 51 wolves and 49 sheep voting on what is for dinner. We are all slaves to the state and are born into it, literally nothing about any governments of the world is voluntary. Every law we have on the books is backed by threat of putting someone in a rape cage AKA prison(which doesn't rehabilitate anyone to put them through trauma) or backed by the point of a gun because "I said so".
Trump should dismantle everything he can, he should sign an executive order today and permanently eliminate Presidential elections, ban them from ever happening again, and resign as President. Everyone in the FBI/CIA and all these psycho control groups should be immediately fired as they are all unelected. If they are so important they can be elected and held to account.
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For future reference, I said above that we can't blame Trump for the pandemic itself. However... on further review, that may actually be the case.
It wasn't just the US's domestic response that Trump destroyed. It was the US's key position in the international early warning network to spot new diseases before they even become epidemics, much less pandemics:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/how-white-house-coronavirus-response-went-wrong/613591/
Had Trump and the GOP not destroyed the international monitoring system, would COVID19 have even made it out of Wuhan in the first place?
We will likely never know, but we have to now consider "maybe not" as the answer... and that is even more damning.
A timeline of the past 6 months of Trump's abject failure to do the most basic part of his job:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/trump-coronavirus-covid-denial-timeline/