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RE: The Delusional Right Wing

in #politics7 years ago

" Who do I call when I need to speak to 'society'? "

it really depends. As long as the workers are in control of the means of production it is socialism. The exact structure that comes from that changes from group to group.

Can I speak to your market about prices please?

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www.amazon.com

It even has a website

The council of people who manage the goods that are produced. Since it can literally be everyone, a democracy, it literally is all of society.

Also newegg has different prices, so that is wrong and not the entire market.

I did not claim that my market needs a 'decider' - it doesn't need anyone to speak to. That's the beauty of it. You claimed that in socialism 'society' decides, so that seemed like you meant some kind of organized decision process

"I did not claim that my market needs a 'decider' - it doesn't need anyone to speak to."

I did not claim that either, but the thing is the decider of each company is the owner. The one with all the power, but does not have to do labor himself.

"So that seemed like you meant some kind of organized decision process"

It can be a government or it can be a collective of people, sometimes both. Anarchy and state socialism can actually coexist. (unless Trotsky)

The beauty of it is that since the workers control the means of production they can organize however they want whenever they want, without a leech who controls them through the use of the government. (private property)

So back to the "who do I speak to" part - what are the workers to do then, in socialism? The first Monday morning after institution of socialism, what do I do as a worker?

"The first Monday morning after institution of socialism, what do I do as a worker?"

"The first day after the institution of capitalism, what do I do as a worker?"

It really depends, you can't predict the outcome of entire system shifts.

After a while you would simply join a union that controls a factory and get what you produce and do whatever you want with it.

If you don't want to join one, start one. If you have a conflict peacefully and logically solve it. Its that simple.

You open the newspaper and look for job ads.

In your case, who decides what the factory makes? And where does the factory get its raw materials from?

"In your case, who decides what the factory makes? And where does the factory get its raw materials from?"

The people who control it and the people who control the factory that makes the raw materials.

How are you not understanding the answers? Its so simple lmao