First, let me thank you for the reply back.
I myself upvote 30 to 40 times a day. Do i read every word of every post? No. I'm supporting users whos content and comments I have come to value.
When one of them eventally does something wrong will I abandon them? No. I will condemn there actions and do my best to help them get their act together. Thats what friends do.
Little boy does have a lot of passion. He also sees the world in black and white. May he grow in wisdom to see the shades of grey and understand naunce better.
You can call me bro anytime you want.
Woah hold up @randystiefer,
I actually read all the posts of the people I support before throwing that up vote. If someone does something wrong, I try to say something about it. I really am torn on a situation like this. I know for a fact that @surpassinggoogle does a lot for everyone, and really wants to see Steemit succeed, not just one community, but all of them. Terry's my boy, I support him 100%. Now the problem is that he is up voting an account that is plagiarizing its content.
It's not his fault, he didn't write the posts. However, plagiarized posts should not be getting rewarded AT ALL, that's something I stand by. I see that users are looking at @littleboy, saying that his methods are harsh, but being a college student I can tell you right now, plagiarizing can get you kicked out of school. There are key phrases and words present, this is not a paraphrase, because there are no original thoughts taking place.
This guy needs citations for real. Little boy is not being a paranoid jerk, this is something that would make Steemit fail at mainstream adoption, and break a bunch of laws, leading it to shut down. I'm not going to lie, last week I came across a post that I was certain was plagiarized, and I had to use multiple tools to find the original source.
What I am saying here, is that it's actually really tough to spot the people who do these things in the first place. Don't condemn the voter because it isn't super obvious plagiarism. Trying to punish Terry for this is ridiculous. At the same time, he should for real not give this particular account any more votes now that the plagiarism is confirmed. I feel that continuing to vote this person looks bad on you, unless he changes himself.
All the love,
shello
Steem cannot be shut down. It's a blockchain. I don't know why people keep saying Steem could be shut down as if that is the risk. The risk is that Steem could lose support (people could stop buying Steem) as that is the only way it will stop. Public sentiment matters more "for the platform" than mere copyright law in one country. I agree that the United States is the biggest country using Steemit, but Steem is bigger than that and is global.
The rest of your post I agree with. College educated posters know to cite sources.
Thank you for your feedback @dana-edwards,
Maybe saying that this could shut Steemit down completely is a hyperbole type statement. I feel like copyright infringement at the most severe level, could get the site restricted in some countries, which is something we don't want.
You are right, people in fact cannot shut down anything that is decentralized/peer to peer, and that is a beauty of the block-chain.
This is something that I can agree with. I do want to say that instead of only focusing on punishing people for copying and other stuff, maybe some posts about making original content would help the mentality of new users. What do you think?
Mahalo,
shello
My point of view is, there are many anarchists who post conspiracy theories. That talk could also get this site banned in many countries. Yet I do not see people rushing to censor that content. Why? Because it provides value to the Steemit community to keep those content producers even if their opinions don't line up with the opinions of various governments or "global elites" as some might say.
Copyright is a legal issue and because Steemit.com is in the US it is vulnerable to all sorts of legal disputes including threats by the SEC due to the SMT, but even if that did happen the site will appear outside of the jurisdiction of those agencies.
The whole basis for why Steemit is different from other blogging platforms is censorship resistance. I do agree with you that plagiarism provides no value because it's not even offering the opinions or commentary of the blogger on the content. I just don't think a case of plagiarism should be handled the way it was handled in this case, and this is not the first instance of this.
It's becoming a pattern now where it at least seems that some new bloggers are looking for any flaw or mistake or problem they can find in established bloggers, and then instead of bringing it to the attention of the established blogger to explain why it's a problem, instead they choose to blog about it and make it out to be a huge conspiracy.
If it's plagiarism (which is a problem) then leave a comment, downvote the post, alert a whale and get the post demonetized if you can prove deliberate plagiarism. But that isn't what happened here.
This post has the title: "Ned's pre mined SP is being used to promote Steem abuse!", which makes it seem like some giant conspiracy with Ned involved. I have a problem with the tactics being used because it's the sort of tactics to destroy a community rather than grow it.
The reason I have such strong opinions? Just a week ago I was accused of "copy paste" by a person who never even read my articles and thought I was getting too much money from "auto votes".
I invite you to be a judge, read some of my articles, and tell me if you think I copied and pasted anything.
Article of accuser: https://steemit.com/writing/@cmoljoe/my-complain-about-auto-votes-on-example-of-dana-edwards-and-why-are-auto-votes-killing-steemit
My blog: https://steemit.com/@dana-edwards
And that is the problem. Anyone who posts frequently even if it is original content can be accused of "copy paste", even if they cite sources in their articles and followed every rule. Occasionally you do find a true example of plagiarism but innocent bloggers are being discouraged by these witch hunts and worst of all it makes the platform less fun.
People are so focused on the money that they forget about community in these times. Oh well, if that happens there are other places to blog, and also there are as I said before other ways to support the community other than to write if people aren't good enough at writing. Lets hope SMTs save the day and allow people more options to add value to Steem.
If he changes, i will vote. If he is determined a plagiarist, i can only monitor him henceforth. it is something i will look into much later. For now, i am struggling to keep my mama alive.
I pace things and don't push things. i didn't get the guy to rep 70. Moreover, i have been hear for long. I shouldn't react so hastily cos someone wants me to
That's all I can ask for @supassinggoogle, I know you have a lot going on, and you aren't boosting him.
I know that you will do the right thing, and when you are able to look into it further, you will.
Your mom comes first,
<3 shello
When you have a MFA hanging on your wall you can lecture me about citation.
Did you even read my comment? I'm not here to lecture anyone. I'm trying to say that several people and communities seem to be okay with posting however you want, and everyone sees plagiarism differently. Legally, that's kinda not okay.
It might sound fine right now, because everyone can make some money, but what happens if Steemit get shut down because somebody got too greedy for up votes and fame, that they figured making original content would take too long. This type of stuff happens everyday, where people getting caught cheating can screw everybody over.
Don't we all want to see Steemit succeed?
Steemit also doesn't let us edit old posts. It could be shut dow based on old posts which cannot be deleted or edite? No, it cannot be shut down because it's all on the blockchain. A website will pop up in Russia or somewhere else.
Yes i read every word of it. I also read every word of your follow up post. This isnt a college classroom(something i have spent too much time in). The real world rules are far more confusing. Rewording a passage from an obsure history book is probably not a problem because a lawyer won't see the money in it. Use an emoji tatooed on kylie Jenner's right butt cheek? Billion dollar suit.
For future reference. Telling someone to hold up and then citing being a college student as a reason you hold the moral high ground to a graduate degree holder isn't a steller way to start a conversation. Sorry I let my inner asshole loose for a moment.
The citing stuff isn't for you, I only replied to your comment because you said you don't read posts.
I was like... what?
Also no problem, I'm no expert. Just don't want to lose this site y'know?~
I hold a degree in photography. I'm not here for the words.
Mhmm, everyone is here for different things c: