Neds pre mined SP is being used to promote Steem abuse!

in #plagiarism7 years ago (edited)

Surpassinggoogle has received a half million SP delegation from ned and he is using some of it to promote his "bro" who is a massive plagiarist who is mostly posting plagiarized posts by most likely using rephrase tools.

Surpassinggoogle upvoted this post by him. It is entirely plagiarized from this book.

I went to article rewrite tool and checked one paragraph. Here's the result:

He is literally using article rewriter tool to plagiarize whole articles and then he is editing out the errors made in the machine rewrite to ensure no one is able to find out what he is upto. He got a 70 SP my plagiarizing posts and earned 1000+ dollars by doing basically nothing but plagiarizing posts.

When I reached out to surpassinggoogle, he refused to remove his votes and asked his "bro" to add source. Adding source to totally plagiarized posts doesn't make it any better. Cause the whole post is stolen from someone elses work. And the frightening fact is that this plagiarism enabler is one of the top witnesses. He has voted many many more of his plagiarized posts. For more details, read my previous post about this plagiarist.


https://steemit.com/zappl/@juvyjabian/relax-and-zapp-a-while#@surpassinggoogle/re-juvyjabian-relax-and-zapp-a-while-20171112t122242100z

They may be connected to each other as you can see in the above message. Having him as a top witness is potentionally dangerous for the whole platform.

One last thing, the plagiarist is witdrawing a lot of Steem which is most likely contributing to the recent price loss of steem.

Update

For those claiming it is "one instance out of a thousand": No it is not one instance. He has voted many posts by the plagiarist and the votes are probably automated. I asked him to remove his votes on the plagiarized posts but he didn't take any action.

The list of confirmed plagiarized posts by Juvy the plagiarist:

https://steemit.com/history/@juvyjabian/european-spiritual-challenges-and-its-authority
https://steemit.com/science/@juvyjabian/the-nature-of-our-solar-system
https://steemit.com/history/@juvyjabian/europe-s-religion-warfare
https://steemit.com/arcane-teaching/@juvyjabian/understanding-the-arcane-teaching
https://steemit.com/human-nature/@juvyjabian/the-differences-of-rank-and-the-reason-of-human-desires

https://steemit.com/history/@juvyjabian/how-did-the-aryans-lived-their-lives-during-the-ancient-india plagiarized from https://www.google.com/search?q=Were+the+women+in+Namuci%27s+army+human+or+mother+goddesses%3F&source=lnms&tbm=bks&biw=1236&bih=631

Also, he is using fake sources. I am confident that all of his pending articles other than the last four articles (published after my expose) are plagiarism.

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It's true that we don't condone plagiarism, however I agree with many others who have responded that you need to change your tone. Did this really require a post? I'm not saying that to be mean, but why can't a simple conversation with him suffice to raise the issue? It seems like you are trying to gain more visibility through controversy, which in essence is working.

As for asking people to remove their votes, why don't you get to know the person first. If you really understood why people were voting for him as a witness you would see that it has nothing to do with his Steem Power, his affiliation with Ned or any other Witness/Individual and what he can do when upvoting a post. @surpassinggoogle does so many things for the Steemit community. He hosts an RPC server to help load balance the traffic from Steemit, He has several initiatives that support a huge number of Steemit users and focuses on countries and regions with struggling economies and the people within those regions, he frequently joins charity events and meetups to spread the word about Steemit and encourage/teach. He gets down in the weeds to meet people and spends time with those who are less fortunate.

I have met him in person on several occasions and regardless of who you are he puts others first before himself. He has so many projects going on that he rarely gets to sleep. For these reasons alone he has my vote and support. With all that he has going on including various health issues and a focus on his family who he hasn't seen in ages, he has very little time to go back through every single post of the 1000's he has probably voted on to adjust his vote.

So a few plagiarized posts got through. That doesn't mean he supports plagiarism. Call the plagiarized posts out and let the community know so they know not to support them in the future. Why attack the person who is doing everything to support the overall steemit community.

It's true that we don't condone plagiarism, however I agree with many others who have responded that you need to change your tone. Did this really require a post? I'm not saying that to be mean, but why can't a simple conversation with him suffice to raise the issue? It seems like you are trying to gain more visibility through controversy, which in essence is working.

You are making speculative claims here. I have already had a conversation with him in which I pointed out that he was supporting a plagiarist. He then asked the plagiarist to add source. But the plagiarist realized that he has been found out, so he deleted that entire article.

He also appears know the plagiarist guy with whom he most likely is talking in private chat. He is also running bots that are negatively impacting the whole site.

He needs to publicly address what is his relation with the plagiarist. He seems to be quite close with him. Added screenshots of my conversation with him below:

I am not the only one who asked:

So a few plagiarized posts got through. That doesn't mean he supports plagiarism. Call the plagiarized posts out and let the community know so they know not to support them in the future. Why attack the person who is doing everything to support the overall steemit community.

I did exactly that in my previous post. I published this because I believe the plagiarist is probably someone close to him.

I totally agree. If @littleboy intentions are good, he can talk to 'em like a BIG BOY!

Hey bro, i just called you bro. It is a general term for brother and regardless, that is how i regard you.
Even cheetah grew heart. So read this: https://steemit.com/steemit/@surpassinggoogle/greetings-from-the-hospital-me-and-my-mum-eventually-saw-a-new-full-rpc-public-node-wss-steemd-steemgigs-org-that-has-been-in

I am glad you change your use of the term rapist. That's change on your part and i happy about that.
Even if someone makes one error, i will educate and love and will not go back to remove all my votes on this person because you want it. There are ways to handle things and in my case, it is paced. If you want to hurry, that is your way and we are far apart when it comes to ways. Plus, juvy has some history, you should go back on history, don't cover just recent posts and be conclusive. Go back till his very first post and try to understand how he got to rep 70, then question each soul that took him there.

You have much many steem power.. Awesome..
Cooolll
@surpassinggoogle

Your little 1% upvote made me curious and go back to this post. Smart move, there was a lot more information to be found now, +100 comments instead of none, will give you at least the credit of 100% doubt now and i always choose the positive approach when in doubt, you are free to go :-)

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Ok if you have enough evidence on this, you have the right to express that. The question is" ARE they good ENough?

Point 1. When @surpassinggoogle said "Hi bro talk soon"
What does it mean to you? You take it too deep, this means "HE will talk to juvyjabian, it can be ANYTHING BRO. If they know each other nothing wrong with that. What is wrong knowing each other?

If he found guilty. I say "IF ". Do we forgive??? My answer is YES! I forgive, but not ATTACK!

did you talk heart to heart to @surpassinggoogle and explain him in details what you found out? or you just leave a short comment and made a decision from there and make a post like this?

But making a post "requesting all seniors users to remove their votes, attacking him that he is abusing the power?? Way too much @littleboy.

Feel free to check my blog.
PEACE!

@surpassinggoogle is a main stay of steemit, many of his initatives help so many. Like a friend of mine above noted this seems more like an attack, than an investigation. Let me ask you. What do you do to make steemit better, bring in new blood, and create an atmosphere of acceptance. #steemgigs is a wonderful aspect of this platform. He votes for hundreds of people a day, of that I am sure.

stop witch hunting and do something positive for steemit, rather than try to discredit one of its greatest proponents,

God Bless all of you my friends at #steemgigs!

I totally agree with you @steveblack.
His post is more than ATTACK than making the platform a better place.
If you @littleboy want Steemit to be a happy place, start it within yourself.
Be happy for other success and start counting your blessings!

Agree with you both. He has (without prompting or discussion) told me to stop upvoting certain people because they wronged him somehow. No, that's not the way I work.

I'm glad you followed your heart:)

But you just pointed one instances out of a thousand, this sounds like an attack rather than an investigation mate. And we all have reasons to withdraw Steem/SBDs; i pray you don't have desperate needs to do so, so that shouldn't account for the down price of Steem just from one user!

I didn't even know he ran a witness but now that I do and I already know he makes every effort to do good for the platform.

He is down below 50 after my expose (can't see his entry in the page xD). Your vote won't have much effect. And it isn't one instance. All the pending posts at the time of expose were plagiarism. And we expect witnesses to not support things that will sink the boat.

That's interesting you say he was in the top 50 when you "exposed" this but if you look at steemdb you can see he has gained a lot more support than he's lost.

That's not how it works. It depends on stack. I see, tamim voted him. I will ask to remove. If tamim removes then he would be down below standy.

All for what

@littleboy, You voted Terry every hours today, we are going to have a parteyyyyy! Nov. 16, 2017

https://steemdb.com/@steemgigs/witness

I am composing a comment to this little boy right now, and I can definitely say I'm really glad to see you here defending Terry :

He is also running unregulated bots that are upvoting on anyone including abusive posts.

I see you are getting upvotes from surpassinggoogle.

Exactly my point man, he votes on a lot of people so i was confused...Please go ahead with your investigation; eagerly waiting for your outcome!

And if you find my references and source, then you would know some of us ain't down for Copyright thefts!

The point isn't that he voted on him. The point is that he refused to stop supporting plagiarism and is talking with a plagiarist behind the doors.

I totally understand why you are defending him. Cause if he loses his delegation, your payouts in your future posts will decrease.

You really have a myopic view of things,Just like asking me to remove my vote on this post because you just mentioned me defending some kind hearted man who upvotes hundreds of user..... i thought you are way matured for all this:

I totally understand why you are defending him. Cause if he loses his delegation, your payouts in your future posts will decrease.

I leave you to your investigations and be sure to do so for over 200 or more people he votes on in a day man.

Here's what you said:

But you just pointed one instances out of a thousand, this sounds like an attack rather than an investigation mate.

Nope. There hasn't been a thousand istances of whales talking behind the doors with plagiarists. Also, whales generally remove upvotes on such posts if pointed out.

And we all have reasons to withdraw Steem/SBDs; i pray you don't have desperate needs to do so, so that shouldn't account for the down price of Steem just from one user!

Witdrawing steem isn't the problem here. Making money by stealing other peoples work and then using that money to decrease the price of steem is the problem.

Man, i have no idea what happened behind closed doors, but your statements saying i get upvotes from him too sounds too cunny, am sure you know that he votes on over hundreds of posts like mine that ain't plagiarize. It is good to seek peace, i tried in my comments but have no idea what i just stumbled on!

You need to chill out yo.

So this is why you are upset (jealous). We get upvotes and you don't. Hmmmm.... We are getting somewhere

I have got upvotes from him. That's not the issue here.

So it's something else, but there is an issue. Can you give us an honest explanation ? And what exactly are you trying to prove ?

This is not an instances out of thousands. I have asked him to remove upvotes but he defended the abuser. And he replied to him "hi bro, talk soon" after some time I revealed it. What is he talking about behind the doors?

abuser? a reward pool rapist? What else did you call him?

Oh!....well they might have a pending discussion

Anyways, one-love mate!

Man it is a cheap and sad attack on someone who is literally killing himself manually voting and commenting hundreds of posts everyday.

And also someone who really cares about helping build communities.

I am not supporting plagiarised content but making such harsh accusations from 1 case out of the hundreds of votes @surpassinggoogle casts everyday is not right man.

You have to understand that at those levels of manual curation it is impossible to check all the sources, and engage with the users and all the work steem means.

We have cheetah for signaling plagiarism and he uses that as a guide like many of us that are concerned about the humans behind the steemit blog.

Yet he listened to you and your complains, and took the time to tell the poster.

If you are not satisfied by that, you could have commented there suggesting not to use text spinners and all that you present here...


Well said @nnnarvaez

First, good job outing plagiarism.

Second, I reckon your post reeks of the fury of the scorned, seeming to be motivated by @surpassinggoogle's refusal to obey you.

Perhaps you would have more impact were you to edit your tone a bit. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that the impression you convey is that of one entitled to obedience, and implies a threat to all who might dare to defy you, and your like-minded cohort, of public emasculation.

I would be likely to be strongly supportive of your underlying point were it not so framed.

While I'd prefer it if you didn't feel my comment here is an attack, I have to point out that if my criticism is taken as constructive, you will benefit your cause, and will prove my point if you consider it an attack.

I'll be interested in seeing which direction you view it from, and we'll go from there.

Second, I reckon your post reeks of the fury of the scorned, seeming to be motivated by @surpassinggoogle's refusal to obey you.

First of all, I would like to remind you that he is was among the top 50 witnesses. Not sure if you know what that even means. Also, another whale user has been supporting this plagiarist. I have largely didn't do much talking to him about voting of the plagiarist. Because he is using his own money to give votes.

But steemgigs aka surpassinggoogle is a top witness and therefore, his case is different. The money he is giving away comes from investors who have used their own money to buy the coins. And the posts that he upvoted were serious cases of plagiarism that could lead to blocking of the main site.

I have seen a few posts saying golos was blocked by Russia for copyright infrigment. I don't want that to happen with steemit.

Not sure if you know what that even means.

I find it incredibly ironic that you would talk down to somebody like this when you yourself clearly don't know too much.

  1. He's not in the top 19.
  2. All of the money on the platform comes from the reward pool. The money doesn't come from the investors. The price is set by the markets. Nobody invested in bitcoin cash before it had a $600 value instantly after the fork.
  3. The investors you're referring to didn't put their money in they mined the cryptocurrency.
  4. Plagiarism will not lead to the site being blocked. This is a blockchain on which the plagiarism still exists.
  5. This guy was trying to help you and you realise you proved his point, right?...

He's not in the top 19.

I am fairly sure he was in the top 19 or top 50 when I wrote my previous post. I saw his name in steemit witness vote page. Only top 50 witnesses stay there. His rank decreased after my expose.

All of the money on the platform comes from the reward pool. The money doesn't come from the investors. The price is set by the markets. Nobody invested in bitcoin cash before it had a $600 value instantly after the fork.

The market is set my the investors. Their inflated money is what funds the rewards pool.

The investors you're referring to didn't put their money in they mined the cryptocurrency.

Did tamim mine crypto?

Plagiarism will not lead to the site being blocked. This is a blockchain on which the plagiarism still exists.

Yes, it will. Example, piratebay, kickass etc etc.

His rank decreased after my expose.

You mentioned this several times, sounded like you wanted to prove to yourself that your hatred post achieve something. Hatred posts are as worse as plagiarized posts.

whew??? The last time I check HE's rank went up after your post.

He was among the top 50. He is now down to 61.

mmmm are you sure that he went down after your attack? mmmmm I doubt it.
I see, you are happy that he is down. If that makes you happy you can celebrate and attack more!

remember bro, it's only a number bro. ONLY A NUMBER. It will not change anything for us, we will uplift him and love him more. He is number 1 for me.

We are going to have #steemgigs party! you are invited:) because everybody is welcome.

xoxo

I appreciate your thoughtful and informative reply, but would humbly point out that I didn't disagree with the substance of your post, merely the tone. You actually didn't address that matter in your reply, although you indicated by the selected quote that you are aware of the specific particulars of my point.

Also, while I appreciate that many find witnesses somewhat opaque, I have some grasp of their purpose, and will point out that it is one of my primary concerns regarding Steemit, Steem, and SMTs. Witness votes are stake weighted, just as are all votes on Steemit, and the witnesses are the mechanism that controls the code that controls the blockchain.

This means that buying the mined stakes of the founders, and using it to control which witnesses run code, allows anyone with enough money to take over not only Steemit, but the Steem blockchain itself. The fact that those mined stakes are necessary to this hostile takeover/Sybil attack means that the founders will become millionaires when it happens.

If you think about it, SMTs are just as vulnerable as Steem, and the top witnesses, Stinc, and other substantial holders of stake are both aware of this, and are not acting to change it.

While copyright infringement isn't inconsequential, the media could buy the blockchain for less than the cost of lunch for the top 1% of them. I reckon this is more relevant to the felicity of Steemers than plagiarism.

While all that is what it is, my only substantive criticism of your OP, is your tone, not the points you make about @surpassinggoogle, plagiarism, or other matters. Perhaps you find my observation insipid, vapid, or otherwise irrelevant, and that's your choice.

All I sought is to reduce the appearance of virtue signaling, and promote rational criticism. I far prefer the latter.

Hi @valued-customer, I like the way you have handled the comment discussion so I was wondering what your thoughts are on a factcheck service on steemit: https://steemit.com/bisteemit/@plushzilla/fact-check-tag-post-for-steemit-proposal-to-promote-transparency-and-accuracy-of-content

sorry I missed your comment until now.

Thanks for your kind words, and I'll have a look ASAP.

Do you know how I discovered this post? I saw your comment to @berniesanders in another post where you slobbered all over him, telling him how you once thought he was evil but now realized how great he is. It caused me to check out your page and do you know what I think of this post? It's a pathetic grab for attention of whales, and the comment that led me here was a hope for upvotes from Bernie. He's far from stupid, he will see through your butt smooching sooner or later little boy.

It is extremely unlike me to write a comment like this, but this whole thing made me really angry. Terry busts his butt for this platform, has been busting his butt long before he was ever given a delegation from Ned. I took a look at the post you're using against him, and it is an extremely honest mistake, only someone with a lot of time on their hands would realize that was plagiarized considering it lists a host of sources at the bottom. Even if the sources were added after--someone as busy as Terry would not realize there was a problem with that post. If anyone is at fault it is the one who created it. One of Terry's mandates for the delegation is to encourage the steemit community of the Philippines which is exactly what he was meaning to do- @juvyjabian is from that community.

I can only imagine how upset he must be over this one, he's been fretting since the beginning that he would do something wrong, he was given a lot of responsibility--that he did NOT ask for I might add.

As far as I can see this attack on Terry is entirely self-serving. I can only hope that it won't take Bernie long to realize that you are the 'vote buying' type of steemian that he generally dislikes, all he'll need to do is take a quick peek at this post: https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@littleboy/decrease-upvote-strength-if-a-user-is-posting-more-than-two-contributions-per-day

Payout from other sources: 407$
Payout from politically incorrect whale @berniesanders: 0$

Your whole comment is nothing more than a personal attack.

This post was an attack. My comment was in defense of someone who did not deserve this post. I will admit it was a bit hostile. Like I said, really unlike me- in fact it's extremely difficult to get a comment from me that is not encouraging and most often full of love, so bravo little boy, you should be very proud of yourself, performing all kinds of feats.

And I didn't assume Bernie would vote on you simply because you hoped he would.

This type of thing is only going to bring negativity your way. But you can certainly choose to go on witch hunts if you want to.

What about yours to Terry? I also checked yhur wallet and i discovered that yhu have been bribing ppl to downvote others. What a life

Surpassinggoogle has received a half million SP delegation from ned and he is using some of it to promote his "bro" who is a massive plagiarist who is mostly posting plagiarized posts by most likely using rephrase tools.

When you say "bro" in some parts of the world, it does not mean you are related or connected as you are implying, it's a form of greeting or show of care in some parts of the world, understanding little things like that matter. Now in case you don't know, @surpassinggoogle is actually a nice guy and has steered so many authors away from plagiarism rather than towards plagiarism. He might have told the person to cite references might simply be as a result of the way you made the report to him.

Surpassinggoogle upvoted this post by him. It is entirely plagiarized from this book.

Was it a 100% upvote? I am guessing the answer is NO! If it were, that would be a conspiracy, but instead, it was the same vote he gave "everyone" else and there was no special treatment being given to the "bro" as you are trying to speculate. He is a man who prefers the smooth instead of harsh approach.
So is @surpassinggoogle his only supporter? Why a post about @surpassinggoogle?

When I reached out to surpassinggoogle, he refused to remove his votes and asked his "bro" to add source.

Please for the sake of fair reporting, remove this line, if I am going to be honest, this seems like something personal and a report with hasty conclusions and generalizations, not backed by solid proof because I have heard @surpassinggoogle more times than I can count and I am starting to wonder if this is to report a plagiarist or to have a go at @surpassinggoogle.

And the frightening fact is that this plagiarism enabler is one of the top witnesses. He has voted many many more of his plagiarized posts.

Like I said, this is not balanced reporting, you omitted the fact that he votes a lot of people and has helped them earn even if it a dollar or two. While I frown at plagiarism, it is worthy of note that @surpassinggoogle has done more good than you'll ever know and is not trying to shield any "bro" like you are assuming. The point is you are tailoring your post towards the wrong angle and it is wrong.

Cause he is being supported by two big whales. One of which is surpassinggoogle. He got half million SP from ned. So, neds SP is being used to abuse steem ;). And the abuser is a "bro" of surpassinggoogle. I will send a transection to ned asking to remove his delegation.

I got this from your other post, my point is this is an extreme route to take for someone who has tried to keep a clean sheet on the platform.

They are also connected to each other as you can see in the above message. I would like to request all senior users who have voted surpassinggoogle for witness (steemgigs) to remove their votes. Having him as a top witness is potentially dangerous for the whole platform.

Now I really have to ask, is this about the plagiarist or about surpassinggoogle? Because asking people to remove their votes on surpassinggoogle because you had a memo conversation with him is wrong. Did you contact him on steemit.chat? Did you try discord perhaps? If you did, where is the evidence of the chat? You need to understand that the solution to a minor headache is not to totally cut off the head.
They are not connected to each other simply because he said bro. I call people bro a lot, that does not imply relation with them, just as I also call people sir out of respect too. It's all about understanding people's culture and habits. Try not to form a whole connection from a single statement, it is wrong and this is almost equal to slander. I know you might mean well, but be careful so you don't accuse falsely.

One last thing, the plagiarist is witdrawing a lot of Steem which is most likely contributing to the recent price loss of steem.

I believe this is an open platform where you are free to withdraw at will? What if he has an emergency? What if he needs it for something important? My anger is that it might have been acquired from plagiarism and spinning.
Great job, but wrong finishing sir.

@littleboy, i have only one statement for you. If the post were so plagarised,why dont you report to steemcleaners and have them flag the post. As i have seen steemcleaner flag a plagarised post to $0:00 payout.
I really do hope you get the attention you seeking.

Here's a comment I left to one of your major supporters:

Wow, you really are a baby. I was kind of with you until I started reading your replies to these comments.

Get a grip, dude. Someone here is on a power trip and possibly needs to see a counselor. You have some underlying issues and I genuinely feel bad for you.

@steemgigs to the moon. He will now get my vote as well.

Hello @littleboy

I had taken my precious time to go through your summation and cannot come to terms with the real substance of this article. This is more of a personal attack to the person of @surpassinggoogle than investigative report.

If your myopic inclinations would allow you see, nothing in this world is 100%. No human being is 100% correct at all times. You have taken so much time to investigate his negligible shortcomings, have you also taken time to investigate his positive side? How on earth can one insignificant person with insignificant SP be responsible for fall in steem price! This is simply irrational observation!

You Claimed his votes contribute most to the earnings of the accused account, and I ask: at what percentage does @surpassinggoogle even vote best of his friends?

@surpassinggoogle positive contributions to the development of steem ecosystem is far more than any perceived negative view negligible number of people may hold against him.

I advice you put your precious time to better use than engaging in baseless accusation of someone whose God has chosen to bless.

@eurogee

This guy is spreading hatred for no reason everywhere around the platform, and simply discouraging new users by flagging when things could be solved with some little discussion.
See his past flagging activities and comments on those post, you will realize how he is acting with other users. he was simply abusing flags.
I'm here because he didn't simply reply to my post.
I don't want to make a post like he did here, someone please tell me some way to report such activities to steemit team.

thanks in advance!

I wish you can investigate more of @surpassinggoogle. What time he wakes up to start his witness work and spread love in Steemit community, did he even rest? How many people who appreciates his genuine support and how he wish he could upvote every post made by everyone. But he is just a human. He gets tired but he never stops. Upvoting a post that was plagiarized, is it his fault? He is just one good man with a heart so pure.

Trusting him is his decision.
Proving him his right is his choice.

So that's plagiarism not about @surpassinggoogle. It's about the author.

And yes I got vote from him too. And I know him before he started in Steemit. So I'm not happy to read your post but I know @surpassinggoogle not bother with this. He know himself so well. Want to tell you he is a damn good kind of a man and Steemit is lucky we have him.

Lots of love. Bless you dear @littleboy. ❤

I find this article against to @surppasinggoogle but he resteem it?
It's gonna be like hate against love! I was moved,

I would like to request all senior users who have voted surpassinggoogle for witness (steemgigs) to remove their votes. Having him as a top witness is potentionally dangerous for the whole platform.

The worst, you are bringing this issue to @ned and ask him to removed his sp delegation?
Are you up something?

Did you confront to the said @juvyjabian to settle this issue before bring this to steemians? I bet not!

Flag me, coz I find your tone envious

you are right kua, @surpassinggoogle resteemed it. This is LOVE:)

I read another article involving this massive SP delegation by Ned to several users. Of all the users that Ned had delegated to if my memory is correct he revoked all the delegations except for Surpassinggoogle and one other Steemian(I may have some facts slightly wrong, I'm working from memory).

Most of the ones that had their SP revoked where practicing in that time honored whale tradition of upvote circle jerking each other. Miss sweet J herself(the cute asian with the posts featuring an avalanche of mediocre travel photos) was just out and out selling upvotes.

Surpassinggoogle on the other hand was spreading the love around, upvoting far more posts from many more authors than the others that received delegation.

So I would speculate that his upvote of a plagiarist is one of two things. Either one, he's upvoting so many posts that he's not got, or taking, the time to verify what he's upvoting. Or two, he's turned a blind eye because it's a friend. Either way, he's thrown support to a plagiarist and should denounce the actions of that person.

Hi bro, i see everyone as bro. Little boy is bro to me. Overall, i didn't listen to him cos i don't need to. He wants me to remove all past votes; not my style. I can only monitor his actions henceforth and to a certain degree cos i respect too. Littleboy has been on my neck since day one and i try to educate him and he will learn. Of that i am sure. He is new to steemit and there is a ton he doesn't know and all that will adjust overtime, so he can't not be my friend. I am his fan in reality. He has passion and that can also be put to good use. There is history on steemit too. I look at that and many other things too when it comes to curation. We are growing the communities as well, so curation takes a slightly different toll at this point till the communities and grown and solid, so this is a time to encourage and lovingly educate. Even cheetah grew heart and this is part of history that littleboy may be oblivious about. I didn't get juvy to rep 70 either. i am certainly not his only voter. I explain to you, to balance your own thoughts, not to respond to littleboy. The post he spoke about, i removed the vote cos i wanted to, not cos of him. Going to someone's post and calling him reward pool rapist; that is the style littleboy has chosen and its his style, not mine. He has his views and his style, i should have mine. Doing a post about someone is also not my style. It is his. We are very different. As for plagiarism well, nothing has not been written before. I tell you, you can write your very own views on a topic like history, which many people have written on too and trigger plagiarism, cos you shared exactly the same wording coincidentally as the ton of people who have written on the topic. Saying egypt was built in 1970 bc and many people may have written using similar sentiments even wordings; i wouldn't hurriedly call you plagiarism. Overall, i sift even the not so good to find good it. Even in your gmail, there is room for spam. The hashtag untalented helps in this regard. Especially for the communities i support, it is has to be love, care and nurture at this point, till its strong enough to be on its own, so i am never in hurry not to give someone a chance. Even steemcleaners themselves do that and give people a chance to redeem themselves. Overall, that is what steemit is about and littleboy will come to learn this. Reputation on steemit and the model behind it also very much involves the human behind the steemian as least according to me, so i look for that too. It is not about content only. You are not the best content creator and neither am i and i tell you, any type of person, can create top notch content. i dont curate only content. I look at history too and especially the YOU, so i can definitely give you a chance when there are flaws

@surpassinggoogle calls everyone bro if he knows you are a male. He sees everyone as the brother. Not trying to sound like a broken record here by repeating what others have said, but I do not think he would intentionally support a plagiarist. He supports a lot of people ( thousands). I believe a few plagiarism may fall through the crack. That could happen to anybody as I doubt he has the time to run every article he supports through a plagiarism scanner or something to ascertain its authenticity. But he supports those with proven integrity and good quality content. This is the first post I am seeing that have something remotely negative about @surpassinggoogle.

I like that you fight for the good of the platform and I appreciate every steemit spam/plagiarism hater. Every person that creates contents knows it is hard, seeing someone reap where he did not sow is a bit hard to tolerate. But we just have to be careful before we throw away the baby with the dirty bathwater.

Keep hope alive and keep steeming. Thank you

Don't worry about this Terry. Anyone one who is spreading the love/votes as wide as you is bound to hit a 'bad' piece of content.

I could cite examples of other witnesses actually promoting users who I have seen plagiarizing.

If you were to check content yourself you would not be able to cast your votes so wisely.

Cheetah is there to help, but it is not perfect.

Users bashing 500,000 SP account holders should appreciate the time it takes to spread the votes around in this way.

Sure, if you find something, let the voter/author know. But try to do it with some respect eh?

Cheers.

Bro you didn't read my last post

@steemcleaner visit your post.. If you have post plagiarism..
Is it true ? @surpassinggoogle

I did Terry, and I send wishes to you and your mother always.

With respect, I don't see how this relates to you being accused of supporting a plagiarizer.

Again, you have supported your community greatly. Ned has seen this, and his recent actions speak louder than my words.

Take care of one and all

Asher

First, let me thank you for the reply back.

I myself upvote 30 to 40 times a day. Do i read every word of every post? No. I'm supporting users whos content and comments I have come to value.

When one of them eventally does something wrong will I abandon them? No. I will condemn there actions and do my best to help them get their act together. Thats what friends do.

Little boy does have a lot of passion. He also sees the world in black and white. May he grow in wisdom to see the shades of grey and understand naunce better.

You can call me bro anytime you want.

Woah hold up @randystiefer,

I actually read all the posts of the people I support before throwing that up vote. If someone does something wrong, I try to say something about it. I really am torn on a situation like this. I know for a fact that @surpassinggoogle does a lot for everyone, and really wants to see Steemit succeed, not just one community, but all of them. Terry's my boy, I support him 100%. Now the problem is that he is up voting an account that is plagiarizing its content.

It's not his fault, he didn't write the posts. However, plagiarized posts should not be getting rewarded AT ALL, that's something I stand by. I see that users are looking at @littleboy, saying that his methods are harsh, but being a college student I can tell you right now, plagiarizing can get you kicked out of school. There are key phrases and words present, this is not a paraphrase, because there are no original thoughts taking place.

This guy needs citations for real. Little boy is not being a paranoid jerk, this is something that would make Steemit fail at mainstream adoption, and break a bunch of laws, leading it to shut down. I'm not going to lie, last week I came across a post that I was certain was plagiarized, and I had to use multiple tools to find the original source.

What I am saying here, is that it's actually really tough to spot the people who do these things in the first place. Don't condemn the voter because it isn't super obvious plagiarism. Trying to punish Terry for this is ridiculous. At the same time, he should for real not give this particular account any more votes now that the plagiarism is confirmed. I feel that continuing to vote this person looks bad on you, unless he changes himself.

All the love,
shello

Steem cannot be shut down. It's a blockchain. I don't know why people keep saying Steem could be shut down as if that is the risk. The risk is that Steem could lose support (people could stop buying Steem) as that is the only way it will stop. Public sentiment matters more "for the platform" than mere copyright law in one country. I agree that the United States is the biggest country using Steemit, but Steem is bigger than that and is global.

The rest of your post I agree with. College educated posters know to cite sources.

Thank you for your feedback @dana-edwards,

Maybe saying that this could shut Steemit down completely is a hyperbole type statement. I feel like copyright infringement at the most severe level, could get the site restricted in some countries, which is something we don't want.

You are right, people in fact cannot shut down anything that is decentralized/peer to peer, and that is a beauty of the block-chain.

This is something that I can agree with. I do want to say that instead of only focusing on punishing people for copying and other stuff, maybe some posts about making original content would help the mentality of new users. What do you think?

Mahalo,
shello

My point of view is, there are many anarchists who post conspiracy theories. That talk could also get this site banned in many countries. Yet I do not see people rushing to censor that content. Why? Because it provides value to the Steemit community to keep those content producers even if their opinions don't line up with the opinions of various governments or "global elites" as some might say.

Copyright is a legal issue and because Steemit.com is in the US it is vulnerable to all sorts of legal disputes including threats by the SEC due to the SMT, but even if that did happen the site will appear outside of the jurisdiction of those agencies.

The whole basis for why Steemit is different from other blogging platforms is censorship resistance. I do agree with you that plagiarism provides no value because it's not even offering the opinions or commentary of the blogger on the content. I just don't think a case of plagiarism should be handled the way it was handled in this case, and this is not the first instance of this.

It's becoming a pattern now where it at least seems that some new bloggers are looking for any flaw or mistake or problem they can find in established bloggers, and then instead of bringing it to the attention of the established blogger to explain why it's a problem, instead they choose to blog about it and make it out to be a huge conspiracy.

If it's plagiarism (which is a problem) then leave a comment, downvote the post, alert a whale and get the post demonetized if you can prove deliberate plagiarism. But that isn't what happened here.

This post has the title: "Ned's pre mined SP is being used to promote Steem abuse!", which makes it seem like some giant conspiracy with Ned involved. I have a problem with the tactics being used because it's the sort of tactics to destroy a community rather than grow it.

The reason I have such strong opinions? Just a week ago I was accused of "copy paste" by a person who never even read my articles and thought I was getting too much money from "auto votes".

I invite you to be a judge, read some of my articles, and tell me if you think I copied and pasted anything.

Article of accuser: https://steemit.com/writing/@cmoljoe/my-complain-about-auto-votes-on-example-of-dana-edwards-and-why-are-auto-votes-killing-steemit

My blog: https://steemit.com/@dana-edwards

And that is the problem. Anyone who posts frequently even if it is original content can be accused of "copy paste", even if they cite sources in their articles and followed every rule. Occasionally you do find a true example of plagiarism but innocent bloggers are being discouraged by these witch hunts and worst of all it makes the platform less fun.

People are so focused on the money that they forget about community in these times. Oh well, if that happens there are other places to blog, and also there are as I said before other ways to support the community other than to write if people aren't good enough at writing. Lets hope SMTs save the day and allow people more options to add value to Steem.

If he changes, i will vote. If he is determined a plagiarist, i can only monitor him henceforth. it is something i will look into much later. For now, i am struggling to keep my mama alive.
I pace things and don't push things. i didn't get the guy to rep 70. Moreover, i have been hear for long. I shouldn't react so hastily cos someone wants me to

That's all I can ask for @supassinggoogle, I know you have a lot going on, and you aren't boosting him.

I know that you will do the right thing, and when you are able to look into it further, you will.

Your mom comes first,
<3 shello

When you have a MFA hanging on your wall you can lecture me about citation.

Did you even read my comment? I'm not here to lecture anyone. I'm trying to say that several people and communities seem to be okay with posting however you want, and everyone sees plagiarism differently. Legally, that's kinda not okay.

It might sound fine right now, because everyone can make some money, but what happens if Steemit get shut down because somebody got too greedy for up votes and fame, that they figured making original content would take too long. This type of stuff happens everyday, where people getting caught cheating can screw everybody over.

Don't we all want to see Steemit succeed?

Steemit also doesn't let us edit old posts. It could be shut dow based on old posts which cannot be deleted or edite? No, it cannot be shut down because it's all on the blockchain. A website will pop up in Russia or somewhere else.

Yes i read every word of it. I also read every word of your follow up post. This isnt a college classroom(something i have spent too much time in). The real world rules are far more confusing. Rewording a passage from an obsure history book is probably not a problem because a lawyer won't see the money in it. Use an emoji tatooed on kylie Jenner's right butt cheek? Billion dollar suit.

For future reference. Telling someone to hold up and then citing being a college student as a reason you hold the moral high ground to a graduate degree holder isn't a steller way to start a conversation. Sorry I let my inner asshole loose for a moment.

Thank you for that Terry,
HE's a FAN! I totally agree with that.
Calling juvybian a reward pool rapist? Hmmm

I can offer him @littleboy my Papa Potatoes.
Let me know if you want more. @littleboy

FYI, I have enjoyed your responses and you have a new follower. I already had an opinion of this little boy from the demands he placed on me in comments on my posts; this post merely confirms that opinion.

Thank you I'm just being true to myself:) following you back.
Hope we can have peace and closure on this particular post. Let's continue to help and encourage one another if we can. Have a lovely day.

Once it has been cited it's no longer plagiarism.

He uses fake sources. Also, the source to last two plagiarized articles were added after his "bro" surpassinggoogle asked him to add sources.

Exactly so it's no longer an issue.

do you have any idea what's going on here?

do you even know how citing sources works? here I will explain it to you.

Step 1. Provide the sources you used for your post.

Looks like he failed the one and only step, which a first grader could do. That is definitely an issue

It is. All of his posts before the expose are plagiarism with fake sources. And it is a issue. Copyright firms can shut steemit down if steemit didn't comply with dmca notices.

I think @paulag wrote that expose/post.
Very interesting.

Surpassinggoogle on the other hand was spreading the love around, upvoting far more posts from many more authors than the others that received delegation.

Yes, also spreading the love to many plagiarists like this one: https://steemit.com/history/@rakib143073433/good-luck-bangladesh

I burned my SP to sink it.

As I said, he should get out in front of this and denounce(and downvote) their actions. Until then his silence is deafening.

What were you hoping to achieve with this?
This kind of speculative politics and reading into lines that has Steem tanking,

While I agree with you that projection and propagandizing is a net negative on Steemit, it is practically inconsequential relative to the oligarchical profiteering that is, IMHO, the most substantial cause of the failure of Steem to moonshot.

I reckon Stinc has thrown it's eggs in the SMT basket, and Steemit has become merely a distraction, hardly worthy of the recent UI 'improvements' to their vision for Steem.

The most relevant issue that I find revelatory of Stinc's plans is the fact that control of the Steem blockchain is simple to buy, and that the mined stakes held by the founders is their golden parachute. In my conversations with them, I have explored fixes, and realized they don't consider it a flaw.

It's apparently, instead, a stepping stone.

You made a great point but we have to realize Ned and the founders earn it...the creators of this blockchain earn it... I could see a point if they are running a voting Bot farm and draining minnows but that is not the case....originality is not a strong point of this platform and the system doesn't have a metric of measuring it either.... the problem here, he is attacking a good actor on this platform and enabling others with motive to read their lines and run with it... we have to respect how people use their money here, the transparency of the wallet at times add to the drama and the jealousy doesn't help.... so you attack terry and he is gone, what next, is he willing to take up the mantle, I read through his post and quite frankly it lacks substance he is basically writing on work done by others, so what really is he point....

"...we have to respect how people use their money here..."

Just as with rights come responsibilities, so respect is balanced by criticism. I'll again make the point that I am not, and never, ever have, made a case that profiting from one's work is bad.

My point, which I have made both publicly and privately to those concerned (that were willing to speak to me about it at all), is that Steemit has been the practically sole driver of value of Steem, and the failure of Steem to be valued more highly is a direct reflection of the oligarchical hoarding of rewards (and mined stakes).

It is the failure of those with substantial holdings of Steem to implement the principles expressed in the white paper that advocate rewarding content producers and caution against mining the reward pool that is the cause of Steemit's current degradation, and the plummeting value of Steem.

I merely point this out, and have long advocated, in as respectful a tone as possible, to those with ability to affect it, potential rectification, to no avail.

"I could see a point if they are running a voting Bot farm and draining minnows but that is not the case."

While @ned may not be doing so (and who knows how many accounts he has?), others certainly are. @randowhale has been only recently retired, and the plethora of accounts linked to @berniesanders is notorious. No doubt, he is not alone in such strategies to derive benefit from his mined stake, and, instead of denigrating him for it, I have discussed with him the far greater profit potential that capital gains from the price of Steem holds.

While I know little of Terry, and most of what I do hear is positive, these sorts of tempests are, as I said, but inconsequential to the problems Steemit, and Steem, have. This probably a matter @surpassinggoogle feels strongly about, and I am sure his actions will reflect his personal interest in the matter, but this will not impact the price of Steem, or the survival of Steemit.

I realize that your focus (apparently) is what appears to be the defamation of an account that by all appearances has been practically singular in dedication to helping others, and I don't find this inappropriate at all.

It isn't the reason for systemic failures of the platform, nor of Steem's recent plunge in value.

What were you hoping to achieve with this?

Highlight that 200+ steem is being earned by posting rephrased posts.

I really wonder if you have written a post about all those that are voting him to $200. As i do not think only @surppassinggoogle voted him with such earning. Simple display of hate from you. Too sad you spending so much energy on hate when you can do better things with your time.
There is a unit on steemit that takes care of what you are doing. Report to them and use your time to learn.

An you believe the Steem you earn with your blogs deserve it... as I have said, cut the guy some slack he votes over 100+ users and give insightful comments on improving post, added to that he runs a discord, also a witness and is involve in numerous Steem related projects... anyway man good luck on your adventure here, one tip though, don't flag because you may climb a mountain you are not prepared for...

His upvotes are not the problem. His support for plagiarism, tag abuse is the problem.

if i may ask, his he the only one who has upvoted those post you see as being plagiarism?,..Bro why are you on this guys neck...free am

It is very Clear now you have a Bad Blood against @surpassinggooggle or @juvyjabian

Either ways, i guess you could say this:

I totally understand why you are defending him. Cause if he loses his delegation, your payouts in your future posts will decrease.

To all this Good people who could differenciate Good from Evil unlike you who probably derive joy in tarnishing people's images for Attention.

Downvoted because you used Ned'd name in your tittle in a negative way trying to get attention(?). This title in my opinion gives not value to steemit...

I totally agree with @dana-edwards

This post has the title: "Ned's pre mined SP is being used to promote Steem abuse!", which makes it seem like some giant conspiracy with Ned involved. I have a problem with the tactics being used because it's the sort of tactics to destroy a community rather than grow it.

https://steemit.com/plagiarism/@littleboy/neds-pre-mined-sp-is-being-used-to-promote-steem-abuse#@dana-edwards/re-shello-re-dana-edwards-re-shello-re-randystiefer-re-surpassinggoogle-re-randystiefer-re-littleboy-neds-pre-mined-sp-is-being-used-to-promote-steem-abuse-20171114t075629391z

Downvoted because you used Ned'd name in your tittle in a negative way trying to get attention(?). This title in my opinion gives not value to steemit...

Do you know why this post is receiving so much attention? Because surpassinggoogle resteemed it. You should ask that to him why he is giving me so much attention.

This title in my opinion gives not value to steemit...

In other words, you didn't like my views so you used your higher SP to try and suppress my views. And you succeeded to some extent by sinking it to 24 cents. But look what happened ...

There appears to be two sides right now in steemit. One supports steem price growth. The other supports user growth at the cost of price loss of steem. I am with the first group. I want steem price to go up. But bots that vote on anything regardless of quality are going against this interest. But big investors also support my interest cause it is also their interest.

Why do you think @tamim and @transisto are powering down?

I want steem price to go up. But bots that vote on anything regardless of quality are going against this interest.

Is anyone that disagrees on that? I don't think so.

In other words, you didn't like my views

It's just what I said about the title... constructive criticism don't disturb me.

I got FALSELY accused of copy and pasting when I wrote all the articles myself. I do realize plagiarism is possible but before you accuse you better be damn sure and have the evidence to support it. Not enough to just say they could be doing it but you need evidence to support that they are doing it.

I've upvoted the person whom you have called an abuser and that is why I ask for some evidence so I can know if I was duped.

I got FALSELY accused of copy and pasting when I wrote all the articles myself. I do realize plagiarism is possible but before you accuse you better be damn sure and have the evidence to support it.

I have confirmed six of them. I linked another article to this article. Read it for proof. It is getting more exposure because bernie and surpassinggoogle reblogged it.

Well plagiarism is against the rules. I am only critical because I was accused of something without actually breaking any known rules so now I'm more skeptical. That said if you find a word for word copy of someone else's work being treated as their own original work then it is plagiarism. The only thing he had to do is put his sources and use quotes like myself and others when citing the work of others.

I also agree that in your post if you would have just tried commenting on his posts that he is doing something wrong you would have given him a chance to explain himself and change his behavior. This action of yours could cost him followers and damage his reputation. It will be hard for him to get upvotes now because why would we trust that all of his future work will not be copied without reference?

The tone on Steemit and the way Steemit is deteriorating as a community is a bigger concern to me. If this were an isolated situation I wouldn't care but it seems many as being accused of some kind of corruption. Steem abuse is too freely thrown around lately in my opinion even if in this particular case you've provided evidence.

Well plagiarism is against the rules. I am only critical because I was accused of something without actually breaking any known rules so now I'm more skeptical. That said if you find a word for word copy of someone else's work being treated as their own original work then it is plagiarism. The only thing he had to do is put his sources and use quotes like myself and others when citing the work of others.

Nope. He is using fake sources. He is using articlerewritetool a web tool that allows you to rephrase articles and then adding fake sources similar to the original article.

So do you think if innocent bloggers are falsely accused of plaigarism that it is as wrong as what you're exposing?

See for yourself: https://steemit.com/copy-paste/@cmoljoe/making-money-with-copy-paste-articles-from-member-with-72-reputation-should-everybody-do-that-2017918t17464558z

And now go look at my blog and please use every tool you have to find a case of "copy and paste" plagiarism. When I challenged the false accuser (who hid for months blogging about me in an accusatory way), they admitted they couldn't find anything wrong with my posts. It doesn't change the fact that they were convincing people that:

  1. My long posts couldn't be mine because they are too long. So according to them I must not be using my own words and must be coping it from somewhere even though they couldn't find where and even though I cite my sources (always have done that).
  2. Then they claimed I was making posts which are too short, so I'm just telling the news, and even though I cited these posts too, they claimed I'm "draining the reward pool".

How do these witch hunts add any value to Steem? And what you did in your title is create a conspiracy theory out of it. How does bringing Ned into it and making it seem like people are deliberately doing this somehow in your opinion adding value? How can we know for sure that any post isn't plagiarism? Well they can cite sources. As far as copy and paste, if we start accusing people of that then how can we ever know any written work isn't "copied" unless we read it?

I give you credit. Unlike my accuser you actually read the posts you were accusing, and you actually found a pattern which does indicate plagiarism. In my case there was no evidence or pattern found except that I posted frequently. Here is a tip for people who want to analyze my posts, if you check the blockchain you can see how often I edit my posts and see they aren't "copied in" but actually worked on and then edited in continuous fashion. And any long term readers clearly know my writing style by now, which isn't generic.

If this is really about plagiarism then we are on the same side. But if you're trying to make a big conspiracy and it is something darker then you're damaging the Steem community in my opinion and you should change your title to this article. Take Ned out of it, and focus just on the blogger who did what you showed to be plagiarism.

So do you think if innocent bloggers are falsely accused of plaigarism that it is as wrong as what you're exposing?

Yes, totally agree but that is not relevant here. He is confirmed plagiarist who earned a hell lot by using rephrase tools. And the articles he plagiarized are research publications that have strong anti plagiarism protection. Steem will be forced to give an equal amount of steem to the researchers if they went to courts.

And don't believe in the myth of steem being decentralized. It is expected to be decentralized but it is not decentralized now. Steem Inc has 40% of steem. Ned dan and freedom combined have 8+ percent of steem. That's about 48% to them just short of 50% which gives total control.

If something illegal happens here, steem inc can be prosecuted for that. That depends on whether the side side wants to sue steem or not. You really do need to understand this cause no one can sue us because we are decentralized is not true.

You can of course argue that even if steem inc is sue they regulators can't shut down steemit but that's not true. Steemit is the front end for steem and owned by steem inc. It is subject to US federal laws.

And do you think if critics are falsely accused of "spreading hate" by spam promoters and plagiarists as good or bad?

This is quite true, and relevant.

Thanks!

Also, thanks for the !tip. Your integrity clearly matches your passion.

Oh I can't believe you are making such a big deal of an upvote given to someone that you consider plagiarism
When you take care of over 1000 users is quite hard to check everything as if it100% original or not
Honestly I think in a way you are bringing hate to Steemit.com
When it should all be about every one should make money
From post commenting and curating
You only have a few Steem bought or earned but others have invested heavily in Steemit.com from time to huge amounts of money!
Bring your own cash and comment on that!
If you want more attention, make good posts and friends!
Hate is not really welcomed

Not a upvote. A horde of upvotes to that plagiarist + running a bot that is also upvoting plagiarists, tag spam etc etc.

He refused to stop supporting the plagiarist who is his "bro".

I just can't believe you are still fighting for it
Calm down mate
Why bring hate here?
And it 100%hate from you
Do you have any ideas how many people he is helping and because of him we are staying here on Steemit.com
The Value he brings to Steemit.com is enormous
Think about that a little bit more before you make accusations
No users no value!

"No users no value!"
the only thing plagiarists use is you

This guy is promoting Bitconnect. You seem a lot experienced on crypto. Is it really a ponzi like so many people are saying?

it looks like one, but I haven't done enough research

No users no value!

Bad users = less value and potential shutdown of this site.

It's a blockchain, they cannot shut it down if they tried. I don't like where this is going. I've seen in the past month censorship, witnesses accused of corruption, myself accused of "draining the reward pool", and so on. Sure there are always problems but we need a better way of handling disputes rather than to air people out in public. At the same time people can see the trend, how the Steemians are fighting over the shrinking reward pool, how they are fighting over money, accusing each other of corruption, and indirectly linking it to Ned?

It's a case by case basis. Sometimes people simply forget to cite sources, other times they copy and paste entire articles without even trying to cite sources. So you have to look at if the blogger ever cited sources in the past and just forgot this time? That could be a legit accident but if they never cited sources then that probably is no accident.

"Bad" users? No. A blogger isn't a user, a blogger is a content generator. If a blogger does not generate original content which is of value then the blogger is not an effective content generator. This does not make the blogger a "bad user" whatever that even means. Nor does it give the people doing the upvotes the right in my opinion to judge any blogger personally on the level of being a "bad user", they might just be a bad writer. They can support the community in other ways besides being a writer, and even very good writers have bad days.

Do I think we should reward plagiarism? Hell no. We need quality content, and we need the content to follow the standards. This is why I never once plagiarized. Next time if you do see someone has plagiarized the right thing to do is to comment on their blog, tell them you caught them, offer them some advice on how to format their future posts, and see if they listen.

Bottom line, I think this is all the result of the fact that Steemit is just an experiment. The experiment to see how people will react when they can see how much others are earning. Of course any time when this is the case it's going to promote jealousy, and who is going to want to post if they see the top bloggers are being attacked for earning too much money, or being corrupt, etc? It's a matter of Steemit has to remain fun (despite the bots, the plagiarists, the controversial bloggers). When it stops being fun, people will stop posting, because no one is getting rich posting on Steemit right now.

You made very good points.

It's a blockchain, they cannot shut it down if they tried. I don't like where this is going. I've seen in the past month censorship, witnesses accused of corruption, myself accused of "draining the reward pool", and so on.

It is not a blockchain. It is the frontend to the blockchain and subject to US regulations.

Steemit.com is just a website. It is hosted on a server(s), and can totally be shut down. Steem is a cryptocurrency that is produced on a blockchain. The blockchain is decentralized, and while the POS VP weighting scheme leaves the Steem blockchain vulnerable to Sybil attacks that are extremely easy, if expensive, the blockchain is relatively immune to being shut down.

Steemit, Steem, and the blockchain, are different things.

I can't believe you actually sat down to write this stuff you posted here...What do you mean by him withdrawing his steem making the steem price to drop..Next time you want to blackmail someone look for more reliable source. Surpassinggoogle has done more than enough good for the community and i wonder why you want to paint him black.

Ok. Have a look at this post too @littleboy. I wrote it because @surpassinggoogle inspired me to. I also made a video and uploaded to YouTube.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@ilyastarar/what-has-steemit-come-to-mean-to-me-i-love-steemit

Read the post and tell me what is plagiarized in it. He will get back at my post, upvote it and probably resteem too. Is he misusing Ned's delegated SP?

Or are you being very negative? Please don't draw conclusions on limited evidence. Terry was generous enough to resteem your post. What have you achieved?

@littleboy, what's with this post? Are you making a nonsense report just to get the attention of whales, o common...better report it directly to administrator than mentioning names publicly. Your are pointing out your finger directly to a person without getting their side?

That is exactly what he's doing. But it won't work, too many people know Terry has the best of intentions for steemit.

I agree. It seems like there is jealousy and racism?? hmm Since we don't know what nationality he is, seems like he is against filipinos and the "bro". lol. I am not interested in reading his intro anyway I think @surpassinggoogle is still one of the best I met here witness or whale. He knows his stuff wouldn't get that high if he was ignorant. Peace!

It is the same person that is plagiarizing. If you wanted him to take his upvotes away from that person, you should have told him and not make a post and accusing a lot of people (which is clearly not the case) of plagiarizing.

Besides, if these votes where automated, there is a possibilty that he did not know of the plagarism.
Another thing too, as regards sources, there could more than one source to a write up.

As opposed to the articles you're pointing out, THIS post is Original and of interest. I've been Flagged before, I'm pretty sure for incorrect reasons; so I'm very interested in ANY further reporting you can do to provide the evidence. For example:
https://steemit.com/history/@rakib143073433/good-luck-bangladesh

That post is CLEARLY Plagiarism but the Voter you're outing has removed their vote. I think the best thing to do is just to keep an Eye on these accounts like @steemcleaners does, expose the info, and let the community decide for themselves.

Also, the bigger issue with @ned's SP is that he Didn't EARN it and has in fact BROKEN the STEEM economy by concentrating all of the early Pre-mined STEEM into a few accounts while he goes off to use Twitter and LinkedIn more than the Social Network that he himself built...
But what you've pointed out is pretty Shitty too : /

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I had to follow you just for your insight regarding @ned's scarcity posting and curating on Steemit.

I must say, your nom de plume is league boots to fill. That you dare is admirable, should you succeed in filling such boots and running in them, I shall faint with awe.

http://archive.logosradionetwork.com/the-crypto-show/2017-the-crypto-show/10-15-17-the-crypto-show/

I was on the Crypto Show out of Austin, Texas several times. That show is @ned the first hour and I joined in the second hour. I hope I live up to the expectations... If not, try to remember that I am THE FIRST Sci-Fi character on the Blockchain ; )

Hello @littleboy. Our community gives support in confidence for people like you. Looks like you need help. I am more than happy to help 😊 . I can make people happy. You are welcome anytime. Or if you are unhappy about something, you can talk, but don't attack.

Elena, I love this. You are learning well from Terry. I've been reading the whole trail searching for love amongst all the negativity, and here you are saving the day.

Thany you @steemitph. Through what he've done, show to us that he feels hurt. And if someone is hurt, we can't help if we attack. Looks like he is looking for the love that others are getting in untalented. Maybe he tried to get Terry's attention, but his voice hasn't been heard(because there are few more hundreds in the same time ), so he tried to shout. Now because you got @surpassinggoogle's attention, you should give an explanation @littleboy. (I mean I already asked if it's jealousy, and he said no).

sweet of you @artaddict.

Spread the love not envy and hatred.
#untalented family
#steemgigs family
#surpassinggoogle family
Let us give a big hug @littleboy. He needs our love for him to see how much we love and support kuya Terry @surpassinggoogle. He is still a little boy who wants to get our attention, care and love.

Hello @artaddict
We have given you our still tinnie-winnie upvote!
You have been spotted by @shikika to possess rare gem!

So what can we do than to seal the deal, give you our tiny upvote and celebrate you, for everyone has something to offer.

We welcome you to the #untalented family. Feel free to come around for its a home with us. Flaws allowed, so relegate reservations and play with that beautiful mind of yours, let's tap into more hidden aspects of you. No average, no bum, just awesome you and the best version of YOU is a gift to humanity everytime. Stay awesome!

Join the steemgigs community on discord

https://discord.gg/CGuPyyT

#untalented is a branch of @steemgigs. If you would like to offer your service in building the dreams of other steemians, you can do so under #steemgigs.

However, if you want to experience full blown freedom and grow in confidence about your gifts and talents, share under #untalented.

We aim to create historical moments in the genre of touching lives and you can support us if you desire, by voting on steemgigs for witness. Simply click here

https://steemit.com/~witnesses

and type steemgigs in the first search box.

Just incase you find any level or form of gifts, talents, attempts at out-of-the-boxness, or any steemian low in confidence about their abilities, worth, etc; please don't let it slip emptily by.
Kindly call on me! Simply reply to any such post and add @steem-untalented or #untalented to your reply and i will be there to upvote, acknowledge, strengthen and encourage them.

I respect your courage to shed lights on these practices @littleboy

Thanks. 0.25 Steem tip for you. I will tip insightful comments to this post.

That's what you consider insightful? When somebody pats you on the back?

Coming back here after a day to look at why @surpassingoogle would have upvoted me on this comment was very interesting to say the least :-) My comment was absolutely not insightful but there was no other comment and you risk serious downvoting making posts like this so i chose for a positive approach and a pat on the back indeed. I have learned a lot reading all the comments on this post, don't want to waste my time checking out all these talked about posts, i actually think i would write something similar now, respect for the courage :-)

You got your tips from "The Little Fella" that should be enough for you if what he did sits well with you Tarnishing one of Steemit's Best here like this...You should vote @steemgigs as witness FYI!

This is like he pays to encourage people to make accusations!

For your information, it was the top comment. I wanted to get the word out. I am pretty anti shilling myself.

Too sad you forget all the good works and wants him skined for you. Truth is, i dont see you helping people if you have what he has.

Well I didn't see you upvote any of the enlightening comments about how this was an overreaction.

because it isn't

upvotes says it all that we all love @surpassinggoogle so much 😍 he is far more better and kind than any others idiotic who are mis using delegated sp

i disagree with all your things i am in love with terry he spread love on steemit he helped many people up to work for steemit the contest who am i maded 10000 of new people to join steemit !

Another rephrase plagiarism post upvoted by him: https://steemit.com/history/@rakib143073433/good-luck-bangladesh

The whole post is most likely plagiarized from various pages of wikipedia. One such page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government#Bangladesh

His bot upvoting tag spam post with ref link: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@salmankhoja/the-wallet-that-pays-create-your-monero-wallet-use-monero-as-your-money-get-rewarded-daily

so you downvote comments contrary to your view and try to push your agenda, good luck

Give a constructive response and I won't downvote your comments. And I downvoted this one as well because it isn't adding anything relevant to the discussion.

Also, expect flags if you are name calling others:

Well you quite intelligent if you are still asking for constructive response... good luck downvoting comments... if you read and understand what I wrote probably you would display slight sense of reasoning

Good investigation, upvote!

nice one.

I don't know how real your fact is..But i'm seeing this to be a blackmail, @surpassinggoogle as what i know him to be i don't see him doing what you said on purpose.

Attacking our friend terry this way is not the best way..Can you be doing this in order for you to gain more popularity? Since you said his upvote is on automatic isn't that not clear enough that he might not even have to read the post before upvoting it?.. I don't think it was really worth it posting this.

NYC
Dear upvote my posts I'm upvote your posts and follow

Congratulations @littleboy!
Your post was mentioned in the hit parade in the following category:

  • Comments - Ranked 7 with 151 comments

Fabulous one!!!,,,,,,,,,
i don't want to make a post like he did here, someone please tell me some way to report such activities to steemit team......thanks for sharing

Cool man..
@surpassinggoogle is the best power..
I hope you can make in the best fot future.

Good job calling out a plagiarist . Let it be known no one owns the community !

@surpassinggoogle reblogged this? He has some ball!

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That's love man!
We should be together in this for success and settle it man to man if their is an issue and bring this to the community without the other side is simply non sense,

Yes,exactly!! One one side there are good people, who are always encouraging new users by teaching and motivating to create better posts to help a sustanable growth of platform. And on the other side there are people like this littleboy things being judgemental everywhere. Until few days before He was after new commers. I have been noticing him flagging those newbie post with no satisfying reason and was acting like steemit cop.
Now he has collected enough of courage to attack big accounts.
This type of person is simply rust for community and do no good in future.
I have been searching for solution for past one day.

Good point @katteasis @surpassingoogle works hard every single day, encouranging newbies and giving them hope and chance to shine. He believes that everybody has something to offer. He calls everybody a bro. not because that they are related but he treats them like brothers or sisters. Terry has a big HEART. @littleboy, just like Terry says all the time " At the end of the day it's not all about you"
Even RUST has a chance to SHINE! Flaws are allowed- I learned this from @surpassinggoogle.
@littleboy- so start rubbing and shaking of that rust!
You can do better than that. If not, we will help you by spreading peace and love to the community, by joining #STEEMGIGS and #untalented!

PEACE bro.
xoxo

Yes, we should teach evryone how things work here if he is doing something wrong rather than discouraging comments and unwanted flags. That's how we should be policing the community. Otherwise, noone would be coming here.
However some people never realize that. Its there greed, jealousy and arrogance.They do nothing to bring new users to the community but always ready to take them down to the ground and enjoy it as their success.

Since the platform is new and there's limited resource learing about it, we should be upfront to guide them rather than insulting and discourage them.

Thanks for letting me know more about @surpassingoogle and his awesome projects.
Love and peace!!

I totally agree with you.The platform is new and not perfect and yet @littleboy wants to make is own rules. Like you say he's like a Steemit cop, putting them in jail, prison for life, no chance for parole. DONE! FINISH! Worthless!

While, @surpassinggoogle, working endless trying to take out us from our comfort zone, to get out from our cages and start to believe in ourselves that we can do it too and shine like a diamond:):)

I have a challenge for you @littleboy, why dont you make a post about the following (since you know a lot) If your intentions are good.

  1. Guidelines for newbies
  2. How to avoid plagiarsim
  3. How to have an original contents
  4. Tips what to post everyday
  5. How to help others etc.
    Instead of chasing them away, help them to start on Steemit. Talk to them, treat them with respect and guide them.

@katteasis, you can read more bout untalented and steemgigs on Terry's blog. A lot of steemians got so much hidden talents that they've never done before and shared about their lives. Flaws allowed, no losers only winners - @surpassinggoogle says this all the time.

CLICK HERE: https://steemit.com/steemit/@surpassinggoogle/steemit-s-untalented-is-in-beta-participate-freely-because-every-participant-in-this-contest-will-win-something-no-losers

Have a good day:) Following you now:)

Thanks again!
I'll!👍🏻

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