Don't you see the contradiction? By this statement you are postulating an universal truth that there is no such a thing as universal truth. You are denying X and appealing to X at the same time and same sense. Isn't that a self-reverential absurdity that clearly shows the necessary existence of absolut truth (always true everywhere for everyone)?
So you are saying absolut truth exists but we are not able to discover it? Maybe I got you "wrong"... ;)
All I am saying is that for some people X is truth and for others it is not.
Do you see why I have to come back and ask wether that is absolutely true or just an illusion (produced by non-rational chemical reactions in your brain)? That is still an universal statement of truth, isn't it? It applies to everyone anytime, "right"...? ;) It applies despite what 7.5+ billion people think:
i dare you to find a universal truth that can be accepted at any time from 7.5+ billion people that live on this planet.
So you are saying absolut truth exists but we are not able to discover it? Maybe I got you "wrong"... ;)
no. there is no absolute truth.
Do you see why I have to come back and ask wether that is absolutely true or just an illusion (produced by non-rational chemical reactions in your brain)? That is still an universal statement of truth, isn't it? It applies to everyone anytime, "right"...? ;) It applies despite what 7.5+ billion people think:
Well, if you give 10 people LSD and they see flying dragons it doesn't make the true. Truth is at the eyes of the beholder.
Again. No such thing as absolute truths. None. Wrote an article about it in the past
Dear Friend, I really can't help but to wonder that you're not perceiving the elephant in the room...
You are denying absolut truth with absolut certainty as though it were absolut true:
no. there is no absolute truth.
Again. No such thing as absolute truths. None.
Your position self-destructs under it's own weight. To deny absolut truth with absolut certainty is absurd. That's what you do, look at the negations.
This statement that there is no absolute truth** is logically speaking either 1) (absolutely) true or 2) false.
If it's (absolutely) true that there is no absolut truth, this statement is false because there is something absolutely true. The denial of absolut truth leads to absurdity because one has to appeal to absolute truth in order to deny it.
If it's (absolutely) false that there is no absolut truth, this statement is simply false absolute truth exists.
There really is no way around. Your position brought to it's logical conclusion ends in the realm of absurdity. It's a self-reverential absurdity and collapses after an internal critique. It is like a building not able to bear it's own weight. Analogically speaking it's as absurd as giving a logical argument against the existence of logic.
Absolute truth exists necessarily because it's denial is absurd. Sure, you can move from
no. there is no absolute truth.
Again. No such thing as absolute truths. None.
to "It's just my opinion that there is no absolute truth". The fact stands that if you try to say that there IS no truth, no, none, no such thing, it leads to absurdity and therefor I think I have logically demonstrated that absolute truth necessarily exists.
The ever changing opinion or agreement of the whole earth's population does't constitute truth. Men can never be the foundation for absolute truth. If NaziGermany had won the war and in the end all people would think that it is right to kill jews in gas chambers it wouldn't make it true. Or if everybody would think that the moon is made of green cheese it still wouldn't be true.
Why do you have such a hard time to except the unavoidable conclusion?
Don't you see the contradiction? By this statement you are postulating an universal truth that there is no such a thing as universal truth. You are denying X and appealing to X at the same time and same sense. Isn't that a self-reverential absurdity that clearly shows the necessary existence of absolut truth (always true everywhere for everyone)?
All I am saying is that for some people X is truth and for others it is not.
i dare you to find a universal truth that can be accepted at any time from 7.5+ billion people that live on this planet.
So you are saying absolut truth exists but we are not able to discover it? Maybe I got you "wrong"... ;)
Do you see why I have to come back and ask wether that is absolutely true or just an illusion (produced by non-rational chemical reactions in your brain)? That is still an universal statement of truth, isn't it? It applies to everyone anytime, "right"...? ;) It applies despite what 7.5+ billion people think:
no. there is no absolute truth.
Well, if you give 10 people LSD and they see flying dragons it doesn't make the true. Truth is at the eyes of the beholder.
Again. No such thing as absolute truths. None. Wrote an article about it in the past
https://steemit.com/philosophy/@kyriacos/there-are-no-absolute-truths
Dear Friend, I really can't help but to wonder that you're not perceiving the elephant in the room...
You are denying absolut truth with absolut certainty as though it were absolut true:
Your position self-destructs under it's own weight. To deny absolut truth with absolut certainty is absurd. That's what you do, look at the negations.
This statement that there is no absolute truth** is logically speaking either 1) (absolutely) true or 2) false.
If it's (absolutely) true that there is no absolut truth, this statement is false because there is something absolutely true. The denial of absolut truth leads to absurdity because one has to appeal to absolute truth in order to deny it.
If it's (absolutely) false that there is no absolut truth, this statement is simply false absolute truth exists.
There really is no way around. Your position brought to it's logical conclusion ends in the realm of absurdity. It's a self-reverential absurdity and collapses after an internal critique. It is like a building not able to bear it's own weight. Analogically speaking it's as absurd as giving a logical argument against the existence of logic.
I'm looking forward to your response.
I never said "with absolute certainty". even my position is subjective. There is no absolute truth according to me.
Your argument can be turned against you though quite easy. For an absolute truth to exist 7.5+ billion people have to accept it. good luck with that.
Absolute truth exists necessarily because it's denial is absurd. Sure, you can move from
to "It's just my opinion that there is no absolute truth". The fact stands that if you try to say that there IS no truth, no, none, no such thing, it leads to absurdity and therefor I think I have logically demonstrated that absolute truth necessarily exists.
The ever changing opinion or agreement of the whole earth's population does't constitute truth. Men can never be the foundation for absolute truth. If NaziGermany had won the war and in the end all people would think that it is right to kill jews in gas chambers it wouldn't make it true. Or if everybody would think that the moon is made of green cheese it still wouldn't be true.
Why do you have such a hard time to except the unavoidable conclusion?