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RE: We're All Conditioned Into Authority and Being Order Followers

in #philosophy7 years ago (edited)

I can't imagine any sort of world without the presence of authority. Without authority there is no hierarchy; without hierarchy, no delineation; without delineation, no categories; without categories, no individuation; and without individuation I cannot even say "I" as I would not be a person.

This is not an argument for blind obedience. Don't get me wrong, I sympathize with @krnel's opinion. It's just that the argument of self-mastery when it rejects religion rings with hubris in my ears.

For one presumes to be a god if one determines for oneself according to one's own will the value and meaning of all things, and thus one becomes one's own judge and jury. Without a morality external to oneself, one is free to do whatever one pleases; morality becomes subjective, effectively amoral, and when subjective amendable to manipulation to fit one's preferences. To whom does one hold oneself to account but oneself?

And if an external authority is objected to because temporal sources are fallible, that is no reason to object to an infallible God. In fact that leaves only God as an authority, who is the ultimate metaphysical authority. If one must obey an authority (which I think it is in our interest as sovereign, conscientious individuals to do so), best to obey Him over all others.

(Disclosure: I am not a believer of any religion. I have no faith but I believe in faith. I studied at a Jesuit high school and was raised by parents who took up Buddhism in the 70s and who are anti-organized religion and while skeptical of religion generally, claim to feel spirituality.)

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First of all I fully respect you as I respect religious people as well ( I know you are not). One day 20 years ago I was dedicated religious. I was always saying ( faith is as important as the backbone of a skeleton .. without it, body can fall like a heap of meat)..... but now -after all those years- I changed in mind and would be glad to share with you.
I do respect the religious people now cuz it’s part of life system exactly like I respect the un-entrepreneurial people. Religious people are like the people who cannot be entrepreneurs ... they cannot feel safe without a regular job with guaranteed salary or reward. However, I respect more those entrepreneurs/ non religious who are courageous enough to completely depend on themselves not on their BIG EMPLOYER !
I wish you got my point !

I respect both groups cuz it’s life system. However, I am bias to my group.
Have a good day my steemian fellow @eskmcdonnell

Love ❤️ from @josteem

If all people in this world are entrepreneurs, they would not find someone to work for them !! Diversity is a key 🔑 😍

Honestly, I don't think I follow what do you mean by "[...] they would not find someone to work for them."

Reliance on oneself is a good, and admirable - I quite understand this sense of the "entrepreneurial-ship" you refer to. And those who are able to, have no need for God; they can sustain themselves each on his own personal religion.

But I call your attention to the fact that people are very fragile and quite lucky to bear their burdens well. Such self-reliant "entrepreneurs" are singular individuals. Most do not bear their burdens well b/c life is dure. It is these who need God.