I was discussing this concept with @r0nd0n and @mfxae86 earlier tonight and thought I'd share this here and expand on my perspective further. I don't think there is anyway to change the current system of rule into anything positive. I believe that it has been tried at many points throughout history, but human nature perpetuates the cycles of oppression. I don't say any of this to sound hopeless or come across as someone that doesn't recognize the need for change and I'll discuss my thoughts on this below.
Perhaps it's a bit of a paradox, but there is no way to stop someone from oppressing you without the use of force or submission, which is just acceptance or denial of the oppression. We end up in a situation where we put laws into place that give the illusion of protection from tyrannical governments and guarantee freedoms, but these concepts can not coexist as it requires everyone to be on the same page ideologically. If anyone wants power and tries to get it, it requires someone else using power to stop them, this is not a rational system of checks and balances and it is inherently violent as there is no equal power distribution.
Either we all use whatever power we can create for ourselves against each other or we collaborate and use our power together to work towards common goals and interests. The problem with any form of government is that it's a centralization of power that funnels corruption and the worst elements of human nature towards the top of a pyramid scheme. The more power you have, the more influence you have, and in turn, you have more control. Whenever we are trusting anyone else to make the distinctions of right and wrong and morally guide our existence, we are under their influence and thus not free.
I don't think all laws are inherently evil, personally I don't believe they are good or evil and that how we choose to implement them and use them is what defines them. Laws that sound good in principal can turn out to be absolutely horrible in practice. Those with power are the ones that interpret, regulate and enforce the laws. It's a flawed system by design as it's based around surrendering our own sovereignty to others and expecting them to give us something in return, be that security, welfare, or freedom. I particularly find the audacity of any authority giving anyone the right to freedom to be incredibly ludicrous.
Why would I submit my sovereignty to anyone for a guarantee that I have it? It's an illusion. That's like me selling you a car that you can't drive, saying that I'l drive it for you and tell you how it was. Why didn't I just buy my own car? Why did you need to be a part of the equation at all? Who is really getting anything out of that deal? To break free of the cage, we must be able to see it for what it is. There is no changing the game as that just puts someone else in control of it. You don't fix this system, you just simply stop perpetuating it and do something else entirely. If anyone is playing the game, we all lose. Why not just be free?
Laws are bullshit . It’s the governments way to say I’ll give you rights but those rights aren’t really yours
Trading rights for privileges....
its a complex beast to take down, but that is also by design. I think that in time the masses will awaken, we will band together as intended and create the change we want to see.... BUT we must be willing to BE THE CHANGE we want to see, not just claim "it would be nice" and do the opposite when the time arises. We need to be able to acknowledge the faults within ourselves , even if it is a conditioned response via our indoctrination, and reclaim control of the congruent self.... de-condition and then re-condition ourselves to be what we want to be and actually BE IT. Its going to be a tough challenge for some that is for sure. Along with this awakening will come the kind of understanding you are speaking of in this article, knowing what is serving you and what you serve is the beginning of being woke... in my humble opinion ;) Much love mang
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Hi! Im finding the worst thing is that the people are fast becoming the police and are so conditioned that they themselves are brainwashed by law. Read somewhere that there will be "good citizen" point system implimented in china i think it was, where citizens are ranked and if your not liked then you are restricted from entering certain places! So yeh the masses are becoming the law, continuing on this bullshit LEGAL system,which isnt even the same as law lol.
I remember in uk there was a campaign, called "Rat on Rat" and was urging people to report crime, or as i remember more specifically "any you see you think is suspicious",this was around 23 years ago!
This is not something which is new, it was implemented that way by design. In this way it is a self correcting system which is perpetuated by us the people, the community, the culture. It is a low maintenance system which we enforce ourselves for our masters and "keep the ship on course". this is also applicable beyond legal systems and is a reflection on humanity itself and how easily we are controlled.
For instance, where i am living the social, societal and cultural norms would not approve of me , a male, wearing a skirt "designed for females". if i were to do so i would be subject to negative action from my peers and those around me. The negativity from this action would act as conditioning to curb my behavior to choose to wear clothing more "normal" for my gender, i would have others autonomy forced upon me until i made changes to conform to the norms..... HOWEVER, in contrast if a girl wears a guys hoodie it is regarded as "cute" and "sexy" to do so, but isnt this the same thing as a male wearing a skirt ? So what is the difference ? The societal and cultural acceptance of the action...
This speaks directly to what i mentioned in my first response , we need to see these flaws not only in society and those around us but also within ourselves.... we need to change the way we have been TOLD to think by society and culture which is CONTROLLED by governing systems such as government, media, and "those with authority". Fighting the powers that be begins with overcoming our own fundamental attribution errors, acknowledging the manipulation we have been dealing with since birth and taking steps to better ourselves by removing the shackles placed upon us by "those with authority".
I agree, it has to start somewhere and clearly it already has. I suppose it's just all already happening. :)
only time will tell my friend..... only time will tell....
yea. you are 100% right
Thank you fro supporting my perspective :)
Every thing comes back to peoples personal values, values drive peoples actions most of the time. But there is no reason we should all have the same values.
I actually agree entirely here. My problem is that there is no livable space on the planet that is not ruled by some government. I suppose we could go to Antarctica and try to make a go of it, but it's essentially just a demilitarized zone according to most international law. The problem is when people start forcing their values and beliefs on each other and essentially deny them the ability to choose their own way.
yeah there is no avoiding governance in some form. I'm not even sure a small government, like a little hippy community for example, is actually any better. I guess smaller communities are more likely to have similar values but then you are always part of the global community weather you like it or not. When the next hippy commune over decides they want your tofu machine then your back in the middle of it all again.
sorry hippies. i actually like hippies and tofu
You can't give someone freedom, you can only take it away.
Exactly. If I need someone to tell me I'm free then it's already too late.
You might be right. There may not be any hope to change the system as is. My base gut instinct is telling me this is the case. I haven't accepted that yet because I want to believe there is still hope of change.
If/when I get to that place of acceptance -- yes, I will do something completely different. Live differently.
I've often had those thoughts -- why not just live free? It is possible. Others are doing it. Dan Suelo is just one example.
Its hard when we , US citizens anyway, are born with SSN and claimed as debt by the government. They even do this before birth now, my last kid was issued one before even coming out the birth canal, no joke. We will have to fight back eventually if we want to stop this millennia upon millennia of 'humans' being slaves. RESPECT
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds.
People are starting to wake up and maybe not in my lifetime but my kids and grandkids lifetime I believe we will have a civil war with the government and their stooges. You might say no but I believe it will happen. That is the only way at this point to be truly free.
Now that this is been said it will be the same outcome, I believe that the first civil war turned out the government will win. I think we will still be bound to a tryranical government. That borrows money based on the lifetime of taxes we will pay.
I could be wrong about this, but I believe the only way out is to remove consent. Maybe that gets violent, maybe it doesn't, but expecting any human to do it better is just restarting the same cycle. I think the solution is to break the system and build something new entirely. Collaborative existence.
I agree, but to break the system you have to beat the system in order to do that. That is where it will get violent. All we can hope for is that the U.S. Military will refuse to fight against its own citizens but that is not a guarantee with the way the military is brainwashed today, along with many others that support the government. If they use the U.N we will have a better chance of beating the system as all of us veterans are trained way better than they are and many are combat hardened. Believe it or not that really scares the stooges.
Laws are made by governments to subdue the people, they don't give freedom they take away your freedom to think by yourself
I'm not entirely convinced that anyone - no matter their level of power or influence - is really in control. The greater the number of major forces at play within a system the more chaotic it becomes. Unless all these powerful players are actually working in concert...which may be the case, but it certainly doesn't look like it...
That's pretty much it. If I have bananas and you have mangos, the only way to get some of your mangos is to either rob you, or make an agreement that benefits both parties. It's unfortunate that we oftentimes give up more freedoms we should for a government that doesn't fully disclose what types of rights we are trading.
Because we have to submit to the government's rules. We all thought Bitcoin was going to give us an anonymity didn't we? But it doesn't.
Exchanges are using KYC and everyone's paying taxes. If you don't pay taxes then you're stealing from the government right?
The system is designed so that freedom comes from money. With this idea in place only the truly rich get to be free.
Think about credit score. Is the value of a person based upon their credit score? YES. You can't even get a good job without a good credit score. That score is easily manipulated especially by the people that already have money.
Poor people can't get a good credit score while they're struggling to feed their kids.
The government is designed to oppress and create sheeple that can never climb out of the hole that was created for them.... by the government.
They say a single vote doesn't matter, and I don't know if it does to be honest, but I can tell you if there's going to be a way to break free of this cage it's going to take a lot of time, energy, and working together.
Great post brother.
I agree, it's going to require a collaborative view of existence. I hope to live to see that world some day, but if I don't, I'd be happy knowing that I was part of the spark that leads to that world.
For sure. It's very narcissistic. These illusions are in place to keep us in check and we buy into them, but then we are mistreated in a perpetual cycle of abuse. The illusion misdirects us into a false sense of security from these institutions, the same way an abuser will give their victims a false sense of security. Love bombing us with promises they have no intention to keep. Then slowly taking away from us our rights and freedoms, coercing us into doing things out of fear of punishment. They put us down and call us crazy when we try to speak up and stand up for ourselves. They create problems where there are none, make us believe we are the problem and come up with a solution that we must abide to in order to escape punishment, in order to earn our place, and they are hence the saviours of the world.
Yes, waking up from narcissistic abuse, also woke me up to government manipulation. It's a shame so many people don't see it, and I do not wish the same ordeals I had to go through on anyone. I hope there is a way to get people to be "woke" (as the kids say these days) without them having to go through such suffering and torment.
Too many people still buy into the illusion that they're getting something of value out of the equation. Hopefully things turn out for the best.
Hopefully. ;)