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RE: Downvoting due high pending rewards and a lack of engagement?

in #newsteem5 years ago

One thing to watch for it that there will be less engagement now as comment votes are simply unattainable to many past the dust level due to the 'curve'.

There's only the big guys that can hand them out, and it's quickly going to deplete the VP.

Of course.. we could state at the foot of posts, 'comments will be upvoted, in this post', which may cause some engagement.

It's a little sad to me that this is the case. I like the HF21 stuff, but the curve, I have my reservations about.

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comment votes are simply unattainable to many past the dust level due to the curve.

I have to be honest, I like this mechanism to an extent. I'll explain my reasoning. I've personally found that some people who spend their VP on mainly upvoting comments on their own blog posts often become lazy in actually reciprocating the interest and support they recieve by visiting the blogs of the people who support them. I'm talking about actually taking the time to read, comment and maybe vote the other person's post/s.

For me, that type of behaviour has driven a pretty wide gulf between myself and some content creators on steem who I spent months trying to build relationships with (through reading, commenting and upvoting their posts), only to realize that they're so arrogant that they won't even read one of my posts and feedback on it. Tbh, it might not even be anything more than that they've got used to comment voting as a tactic to try and drive engagement to their blog, but the reality is that it's nothing more than sitting in an ivory tower basking in their perceived awesomeness lol. Awesomeness that's somewhat inflated by the fact that they pay people for their comments through votes. I'm hopeful that some of those old school steemians (dolphin/orca level) who've set themselves up in a nice little circle jerk, and rarely vote outside of it other than in rewarding comments, will be forced to poke their head out of the cave now, go do some networking and read others posts like everyone else.

I feel like it's possible that this dust vote on comments thing may actually encourage more honest engagement, and distribution of rewards. That's my hope anyway.

P.s. I'm a massive hypocrite in regards to everything I'm saying here in the last couple of months because my engagement has been aweful, but there are legitimate real-world reasons for that. Previously, I practiced exactly as I'm preaching 😉 and will be becoming much more active in networking in a week or two when certain circumstances change.

#noholdsbaredwednesday

A lot of it is time or lack of it. The more SP you get, the more attention.., there are obvious reasons why which I hardly need to explain.

You get to a point where it becomes work and not enjoyment. I do some auto-voting and some manual curation but do comment less than I used to for this reason.

I get shit at home from @bingbabe for, 'being on the computer too long' another reason. I try and do this stuff at work if I can, but you can only do so much of that.

This wasn't aimed specifically at either of you guys @abh12345 @slobberchops

obvs I made the decision not to name names in the comment simply cause I don't see the point in starting fights that are pointless. It was more meant as an observation of my experience of steem, also why I don't comment anymore on certain users posts. After a certain amount of time, and SP 😉 some people start to believe in their own hype and perceived importance. Lol, I've observed that quality of content is rarely the defining factor in that hype.

The reciprocal nature of steem goes down as you gain more SP for sure. I found myself doing it as I gain high enough SP to reward comments, and when I noticed it in myself I had to question it, as I always used to see a comment on my post as a trigger to go check out that person's profile and latest post. If their content was poo, I'd never feel guilty about ignoring them, but if it was good I'd follow them and if it was in my field of interest I'd take the time to read, comment and vote. I guess it's a balancing act as you gain more SP and followers. If we look at anomadsoul's posts when he had the blocktrades delegation for example, there is no way he could even answer all the comments, let alone check out all the users commenting.

P.s. honestly, this wasn't meant as a guilt trip. Just sharing my thoughts 😂

If we look at anomadsoul's posts when he had the blocktrades delegation for example, there is no way he could even answer all the comments

It gets like that at times, though I always try to respond to comments on my own posts.. but on other's I'm not so hot.

Many have left, so it's not as bad as before, unless the topic is STEEM related.. then there's many more comments :(

often become lazy in actually reciprocating the interest and support they recieve by visiting the blogs of the people who support them

Feeling a bit guilty over here.

I don't like the curve, either. I had lunch with another Steemian today who also hated the curve because 20 STEEM is actually a high threshold.

Now it's harder to get to it... then yes it is... too high!

Yeah that's a fair point. I need to pick up my comment game again, even if they are short and sweet.

Next week we should have a better idea of the minimum required to beat the dust. I've been voting with Tribe stake on the alts, makes me feel a bit better.

Do you know the new dust level, @slobberchops? This would be a good thing to know.

The UI's and what really happens are no longer synchronised correctly. But it seems that a 5c vote is now around 3c in reality. I'm just guessing though.

What you see...

Isn't what you get!

Oh dear. This just keeps getting worse. At least everyone is having fun downvoting while little people die.