I had personal skype interactions with both of them throughout 2017. I can tell you that this current pattern in their behavior and integrity was present at that time, which was why I resigned my employment there in August 2017. The petty and unproductive behavior was a constant with those two, but previously it was just masked behind a strong PR front of credibility in the original whistle-blowing story. The story goes back even further than 2017. Look into the stories from other former employees Katie Aguilera and Pearse Redmond. Both can attest to the negative behavior patterns existing all the way back to 2015.