Okay, a number of reasons why this comment and the ones below dont make sense.
1- No, it technically does not run on their property. It runs half a mile next to their reservation and through their ancient sacred grounds. But guess what, they dont live where they used to because we have been stealing their land for 150 years. Many tribes live hundreds of miles from where they originated because they were systematically removed, killed, and relocated.
As you can see, the American government has redefined what Sioux territory means a number of times. Namely through wars like the Black Hills War in 1877 (when General Custer discovered gold in the Black Hills.) Also, this reservation is only where the American government put all Sioux native americans after Red Clouds War, which in turn was caused by American government land grabs. (Source)(Source) 2- The fact this is not the only pipeline in the United States has literally zero bearing on the arguments. The argument is that the pipe runs through sacred lands, which will require construction and digging that will desecrate those lands. Second, it runs directly upstream of the reservation of the Missouri River, the Standing Rock Sioux's only source of water. Any spillage would contaminate their water supply indefinitely. And it only runs at this Missouri River crossing because the original plan, which would cross the river just north of Bismarck (the capital of North Dakota) was scrapped because politicians in the city forced the move. So the native americans in the area are now stuck with it. (Source) 3- Railroad accidents has nothing whatsoever to do with the potential of oil spillage from the pipeline. We are not talking about how many people this pipeline will kill, but that any spillage at any time would destroy the water supply of the Standing Rock Sioux for a significant period of time. It doesn't matter how few and far between they are, if pipeline spillage here ever occurs, it is an issue. And the list you offered still shows an extensive number of spillages over the last 15 years. 4- Most importantly, this is about respect and following the law. When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter whether or not the pipeline is truly dangerous to the Standing Rock Sioux or the sacred spaces (which it is.) What it comes down to is that zero respect has been paid to these people whose lives are being affected by the government (who are supposed to work for the people), and that they were not consulted properly as the law requires.US law that requires native americans to be consulted and included in any construction planning on or near ancestral lands
Government lies.
Wow...didn't know that.
from my reading the ancient sioux didn't subscribe to the idea of property rights. They were nomads. They followed the buffalo. Suddenly they have "land'? Imagine that.
Who Knows?
What Concerns Them as well
is the Water
From What I gather,
This Construction Will Put
The Access Pipeline under Water
it Could Pollute The Missouri River
There are twenty times more railroad accidents in a year than there are pipeline accidents in twenty years. So Naturally it wouldn't be wise to have a pipeline cross the river instead of (multiple) railway bridges.
Quote From Austin Dale on Facebook
So I still have friends on my page liking and sharing these anti-pipeline articles and memes. If you don't pipeline for a living, and you're not from North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, or Illinois then you should really stay out of this conversation, especially if you're just going to keep sharing the same lies over and over. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this is not about opinions, it's about facts, and the facts are; the Dakota access pipeline DOES NOT cross the Standing Rock reservation, it DOES have all the necessary permits and approvals, and it is NOT disturbing any burial grounds This information is easily accessible online with a quick Google search, but I'll include a map anyway, in case you don't have time to research the lies you're sharing. And here are the links showing they have the permits, and that North Dakota's top archeologists surveyed these sites and found nothing. http://m.bismarcktribune.com/…/article_5dc1e955-fd71-5003-8…
And before you start in about possible water contamination, that's just another scare tactic. The Missouri river will be directionally drilled and the pipeline will have the latest technologies and monitoring systems to help prevent releases and will be constructed 90 feet below the riverbed to ensure nothing may reach the river — far above and beyond what’s required by federal regulations.
Don't be fooled, the battle right now may be against this pipeline, but the war is on oil. I know some of you hate oil (even though you consume as much as the rest of us on a daily basis) but there simply is not enough renewable energy to meet the current demand, so this oil WILL be brought to market one way or another, and the safest way is via pipeline. They have a smaller carbon footprint and are 4.5 times less likely to cause a spill than trains. It's an easy choice. So don't tell me you're against pipelines because you care about the environment, because the two ideas are contradictory.
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It doesn't look to me like the pipeline is on Indian...oh wait...I mean Native American...oh wait...I mean First Peoples...Oh wait...
I mean whoever-the-hell-you-call-them's property...
Okay, a number of reasons why this comment and the ones below dont make sense.
1- No, it technically does not run on their property. It runs half a mile next to their reservation and through their ancient sacred grounds. But guess what, they dont live where they used to because we have been stealing their land for 150 years. Many tribes live hundreds of miles from where they originated because they were systematically removed, killed, and relocated.
As you can see, the American government has redefined what Sioux territory means a number of times. Namely through wars like the Black Hills War in 1877 (when General Custer discovered gold in the Black Hills.) Also, this reservation is only where the American government put all Sioux native americans after Red Clouds War, which in turn was caused by American government land grabs. (Source)(Source)
2- The fact this is not the only pipeline in the United States has literally zero bearing on the arguments. The argument is that the pipe runs through sacred lands, which will require construction and digging that will desecrate those lands. Second, it runs directly upstream of the reservation of the Missouri River, the Standing Rock Sioux's only source of water. Any spillage would contaminate their water supply indefinitely. And it only runs at this Missouri River crossing because the original plan, which would cross the river just north of Bismarck (the capital of North Dakota) was scrapped because politicians in the city forced the move. So the native americans in the area are now stuck with it. (Source)
3- Railroad accidents has nothing whatsoever to do with the potential of oil spillage from the pipeline. We are not talking about how many people this pipeline will kill, but that any spillage at any time would destroy the water supply of the Standing Rock Sioux for a significant period of time. It doesn't matter how few and far between they are, if pipeline spillage here ever occurs, it is an issue. And the list you offered still shows an extensive number of spillages over the last 15 years.
4- Most importantly, this is about respect and following the law. When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter whether or not the pipeline is truly dangerous to the Standing Rock Sioux or the sacred spaces (which it is.) What it comes down to is that zero respect has been paid to these people whose lives are being affected by the government (who are supposed to work for the people), and that they were not consulted properly as the law requires. US law that requires native americans to be consulted and included in any construction planning on or near ancestral lands
Government lies.
Wow...didn't know that.
from my reading the ancient sioux didn't subscribe to the idea of property rights. They were nomads. They followed the buffalo. Suddenly they have "land'? Imagine that.
Who Knows?
What Concerns Them as well
is the Water
From What I gather,
This Construction Will Put
The Access Pipeline under Water
it Could Pollute The Missouri River
Geee...this is the first time a pipeline EVER crossed a river? This is a brand new thing?
My Question Is..
Is it Necessary?
Will Wait & See on This
For Now
The Construction has Been Halted
I'm certainly glad that Rail Road bridges don't go over the Missiouri River. According to the Federal Rail Road Administration the last year for which they had data indicated TOTAL ACCIDENTS/INCIDENTS: 5,047 Number of fatal accidents/incidents 406 as opposed to the number of pipeline incidents.. well...less than twenty in [2016]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century)
There are twenty times more railroad accidents in a year than there are pipeline accidents in twenty years. So Naturally it wouldn't be wise to have a pipeline cross the river instead of (multiple) railway bridges.
oh wait...is that right?
Quote From Austin Dale on Facebook
So I still have friends on my page liking and sharing these anti-pipeline articles and memes. If you don't pipeline for a living, and you're not from North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, or Illinois then you should really stay out of this conversation, especially if you're just going to keep sharing the same lies over and over. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this is not about opinions, it's about facts, and the facts are; the Dakota access pipeline DOES NOT cross the Standing Rock reservation, it DOES have all the necessary permits and approvals, and it is NOT disturbing any burial grounds This information is easily accessible online with a quick Google search, but I'll include a map anyway, in case you don't have time to research the lies you're sharing. And here are the links showing they have the permits, and that North Dakota's top archeologists surveyed these sites and found nothing. http://m.bismarcktribune.com/…/article_5dc1e955-fd71-5003-8…
http://m.kcci.com/…/archaeologist-no-human-remains…/41226410
And before you start in about possible water contamination, that's just another scare tactic. The Missouri river will be directionally drilled and the pipeline will have the latest technologies and monitoring systems to help prevent releases and will be constructed 90 feet below the riverbed to ensure nothing may reach the river — far above and beyond what’s required by federal regulations.
Don't be fooled, the battle right now may be against this pipeline, but the war is on oil. I know some of you hate oil (even though you consume as much as the rest of us on a daily basis) but there simply is not enough renewable energy to meet the current demand, so this oil WILL be brought to market one way or another, and the safest way is via pipeline. They have a smaller carbon footprint and are 4.5 times less likely to cause a spill than trains. It's an easy choice. So don't tell me you're against pipelines because you care about the environment, because the two ideas are contradictory.
End quote.
great stuff, I have been active in the #nodapl movement on twitter... it's never over... the battle continues... peace !