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RE: DTube: Why Are People Falling for Fake Intellectualism

in #news7 years ago

Why don't you have Jordan Peterson on your show for an honest debate, and then if you're right you should be able to run circles around his so called 'pseudo-intellectualism'.

Oh wait...I already know your resposne: "I don't want to legitimize his views by giving him a platform."

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I have had him on already.

Can you link to that video? I would love to watch it.

Here it is.

I stand corrected. :P

https://davidpakman.com/interviews/jordan-peterson/

And now that I've actually watched the whole thing, I'm quite happy to eat my own words and say that I think it was a fair and objective interview.

I have to finish watching the entire interview but it does seem to be a very good interview.

Watch the Dillahunty Peterson debate/conversation to get a sense of why anybody with half a brain wouldn't bother to have Peterson on other than to laugh at him. Then again, Pakman has made a business of interviewing dumbos, weirdos and insane people too, so the "I don't want to legitimize his views by giving him a platform" is not the issue.

The fact that Pakman has in fact already had Peterson on his show notwithstanding, I don't think the debate with Dillahunty was the knock-out victory that his fans would claim. Yes, Peterson was weak in a spot or two (i.e. the mushroom/psychedelic thing, or insisting that atheists are crypto-theists), but on the other hand he was coming at things with a whole other depth of knowledge that Dillahunty himself may have not been prepared to process on the spot.

The debate pitted a single-note activist (Dillahunty) against a multi-faceted academic/clinical psychologist (Peterson) - and so I think the end result was destined to be muddled at best. No, it may not have been Peterson's strongest performance, but Dillahunty said nothing to sway me towards atheism.

I don't see how this debate provides any example of Peterson being a "pseudo-intellectual".

I was actually very disappointed Matt held back so much! Peterson virtually didn't answer any question, it was all long-winded word-salads that said nothing or said nonsense (like the crypto-theist thing you mention). That's why I pointed to that conversation, it really highlighted (to me at least) what Peterson is.

Everyone knows Atheism will create a selfish society that is pretty obvious. Compared to have some higher vision or something that motivates you. Some deeper sacred stuff. It becomes all about pleasure with atheism.

Then why is it that most of the societies with highest atheism rates have strongest safety nets and welfare programs?

http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199644650.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199644650-e-010

https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/religious-belief-and-societal-health/

Please do not just link to other places. Your links have more characters than your text almost. Then it becomes no point even making a comment. Make some argument. Currently the atheist countries in the Western World is being replaced by third world immigration so it's a total destruction of the western worlds history. All thanks to atheism.

Sorry, man, if you want to learn you need to go and read. I'm not your personal teacher, I'm already going out of my way to link short articles I have already read and trust so you may read and decide for yourself. I live and work next to "third world immigrants" here in Europe and they in my experience they are decent people trying to make a living just like the locals (I would link to non-anecdotal statistics, but apparently you wouldn't be arsed to read them). Have a good day.

Holding back? At one point Dillahunty concedes that there is no way science can detect nor measure the spiritual realm nor spiritual entities, but yet he keeps trying to put the onus on people of faith to scientifically prove (or point to) the existence of God (or a god).

Pakman made no clear attack against Jordan while he talked to him. But in this video it's clear that he seems to attack him on a much deeper level. So clearly something is going on.

It also seems like many that doesn't understand Jordan can't grasp more complex concepts and read between the lines. It's like they need a word or instruction for literally everything. Black and White people in thinking. You need to have a deeper openness to understand a genius like Jordan. He is like a modern version of Aristotle. Can create hours and hours of material. A true intellectual will love it.

People want to react to a genius like Jordan while he already has 20 new amazing ideas. It's reactive energy to old stuff that is already outdated. With every new expressive thought a better one will come.

Can you please make some core points what you think instead of just link a person to an almost 2 hour conversation? That's like linking someone to Google. Also it's too much Black and White thinking. Jordan has 100s of hours of material and by your comment you make it seem like every word he say is pointless? That is clearly Black and White thinking.

I would like to apologize for the downvote from Schrosct. I did not intend for anyone else's comments to take a hit. I hope steemit can continue to foster the debate that it has already.
Have a great day and God bless.

I sent him some SBD

Thank you.

@prlndra this is spam at this point.

I figured 3 was borderline and it was some of the larger comment threads so thats why I didn't leave any more.