it gets confusing at first because of the hubbing process vs die-making process. There is the back-and-forth of male-to-female... raised image of one die presses in to another die creating a sunken image and vise-versa. Master Dies are male, thus Working Dies female. Hubs are Female as they are the "original" created uber-master die.
Understanding the process will help understand many of the bizarre forms of mint errors... and vice-versa!
Yes.. it is a bit confusing.. though that is helpful. I'm having a bit of trouble differentiating between "proof" coins, whic, for example, on ebay, these coins are called "red" but, they have more of a irridescent look to them--sometimes I come across pennies that share this feature, too: they have an irridescent, multi-colored look to the, and seem to be more detailed, for example, one coin, licolns face is VERY deep on one of these coins. They also have a different feel to them--kind of "waxy, almost." Also, the irridescent look of these special coins appears to be produced by the metal itself--not the "paint" or copper color which is plated on some other coins... does this make sense? Are these "proof" coins? Sorry for all the questions lol
Red just means "orginal minty-fresh copper" color... as opposed to a toned "brown" copper coin. Some toning is of course desirable particularly on silver coins. But PROOF coins are not just struck with better dies, they are struck on well-polished coin blanks (planchets). So they SHINE.
Lincoln's face used to be very deep.. especially in the mid-1960s.. culminating in the monster "chunky" lookin' 1968s. The 1969s, were amazingly flat and lifeless... check out the difference!
Oh yeah... always check your 1969-S cents for the uber-valuable Doubled Die variety.
I will perhaps do another post, or, are you on discord? It'd be great to be able to send an image or two of some coins if you'd be willing to look at them!
Will do. And yes.. that seems to make sense: the proofs being struck on well-polished planchets.. I don't know.. All I know is: I have some coins that look quite different than the others, and they look like what I've seen on ebay as "proof" coins--which are labeled "red," but, are not red in the sense that other pennies are "red". In other words, they have no "coppery" color--it is a more silverlooking "color--" like a plain metal, but very shiny and distinct. "Irridescent" even. But they are not "red/ copper COLORED" if that makes sense lol. Though neither are many of the "red" PROOF coins on ebay that I've seen.