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RE: Seek Your Independence: Anything Else Will Destroy You

in #money8 years ago

Ok, I don't think He is scamming, He believe in what he is doing. So lets review a few facts.

  1. The passport thing is not his idea. Many people (lawyers, advisers and dreamers) talk about it in all the spheres. There are many ways to do it, from Canada, Australia, New Zealand, England to Spain. From Bahamas and Republica Dominicana, to Singapur or Malasya. I'm from México and a know the authorities: they sell this dream to americans: "Buy a piece of land and you could become citizen". Bullshit. But in the same way if a I think because I have five millions dollars I would become american citizen -yes, we here in México hear that everywhere. I know is hard to get another nationatility -but not impossible: he is in fact now citizen of Republica Dominicana as far a I know-. He is human and if he thinks in latinoamerica he would evade taxes is in his own right to said it. As the proverb said: just death and taxes.
  2. In this way of thinking, if the bitcoin was going down when he was bullish, everybody would told him scammer. He bet in BTC, he trust in BTC and told the people: "hey there is this currency who is to blow it". If you heard him, maybe you are rich right know -or maybe robbed by bitfinex or before. Who knows? He is an adviser.
  3. He really believe in all the Shemitah bullshit. And anyone who takes a moment to see how is the world going should believe that the economy is going down to hell, the countries are so hungry of war, and the crowd want blood. Dont mind if I dont put references, is the damn true. Just see the debt, the war zones in the world, the murders in north america.
  4. Some of his advices are really good, like the bitcoin bullish and some options stuff. some others, like the Chile's land was a really bad investment. But hey, that is how business work. Sometimes you got one good and four or five really bad.
  5. Far away from his prophetics habilities, he believes in a free world, whitout any kind a goverment. He applies his philosophy in his own wealth as far the law allow him. He fight against the mass media and he dont mind tht anyone call him scammer or crazy. He do what he believes and that's great. I love the man because of that, their funny videos with venezuelan guys or talking always smoking his white cigarrettes about the end of the world and the rising of a new free order. Cool!!
  6. Yes, he is anarcho, but also capitalist -whatever that means- so he loves the money and i think he badly want that his partners in TDV become rich, but must of all, he really wants a world without institutions and that is what he is figthing for.
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  1. Of course it's not his idea. It's an old scam that lots of crooks run all over the world. Being common doesn't make it any less of a scam when the goods sold aren't delivered or refunded.
  2. Nobody's calling him a scammer for promoting bitcoin. That's just a statement of his personal opinions, not a sales pitch.
  3. The existence of bad things in the world doesn't prove his very specific claims about very specific people committing serious crimes according to a mystical jewish calendar. There are billions of people in the world and there will always be bad news happening, every single day. You can't just point at a few unconnected events and claim them to prove your nonsensical theories.
  4. Even a broken clock is right twice per day. Galt's Galt's Chile was a scam, not just a "bad investment." As co-founder, it was his responsibility to protect his investors and fight for the integrity of the project. Instead, when his partner started to behave abusively, he just walked away and tried to wash his hands of it, leaving over ten million dollars worth of damage in his wake.
  5. I don't care about beliefs. I care about actions. You can be as crazy as you want and I don't give two shits until you start ripping people off. Then you should be considered a predator and hazard to the community. "Cool" isn't a defense... it's what a little kid says when he's expressing his wide-eyed admiration for the blinged-out rapper on TV with a mile-long list of convictions to his name.
  6. Again, whatever ideals might be bouncing around in his head are irrelevant. Actions are what matter and he has a huge mess to clean up before any good, upstanding man can take him seriously. To turn a blind eye to that is to confess your own low standards for character.

I'm not agree. There's a thin line between fraud and bad investment. If you own the project is a bad investment; if you are a investor is a fraud. It wasn't a ponzi scheme nor an imaginary project: the place is there, there are people living there and are in pursuit of their statements. I thing they lost the control in some point. They didn´t study the market, the laws of the country. He was recklessnes and negligent, coward if you want it. How many of us has been in situations like that? I bet in cannabiscoin, I lost money on cryptostocks. I don't thing cryptostock is a scam, there are scammer in cryptostock, but they also gave me good revenues. I bet in BTC and was good, even when the prices fall. And right know I'm betting in Steemit, I just bought 20 bucks in steem. What should I do if this place doesn't work: blame DollaVigilante because they showed me this place? I don't thing so. One, as investor, as entrepeneur, has to study the option and make a choice. If someone is married with GGC in Chile, there is the place to build it up. Greets.

Yes, you already established that you don't agree and I pointed out why you are wrong.
No, there aren't "people living there." Only one person lives there, his business partner, Ken Johnson. The smaller parcels that were pre-sold do not exist. Because I was there myself for three months, I have firsthand intimate experience with it while you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Betting on a coin isn't the same as being tricked into buying a parcel of land that doesn't exist or a passport that you'll never receive.

@piedpiper, I just read your experience in Chile, I didn´t know you were there. So cool. It must have been such adventure. An entrepeneur, a pioneer! I really dont think TDV is a scam, but I dont have a gun or 1000 lts of water in my basement. I don't mind the jews or their mystic theories. But a have a lot of silver, a few of gold, yes because Berwick and so many like him are telling, and have this feeling. I'm not defending him, is just my point of view and of course you have first hand information the true about GGC. Anyway, I really thing is great you to leave your country to try to build your dream in Chile. Didnt work, sorry, I understand you are pissed off. Yes, you don't lost money but it was time and energy. However it paid you more -well, I think so- in non economical ways. I bet it was a major adventure, and you enjoyed.

Yeah, I got a valuable education from the experience so I don't consider it a personal net loss to me but there are a lot of other people out there that were not so lucky. Over ten million dollars were lost and the founders have still done nothing to fix the damage. They washed their hands of it and moved on. I'm working to redeem the Galt name, which they dragged through the mud, but it shouldn't be me and my partners that have to do it. People should clean up their own damn messes.