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RE: On The 50th Anniversary Of MLK’s Death, Remember That The FBI Are Pure Scum

in #mlk7 years ago (edited)

You've presented a series of extremist material here that reflects the despotism of the anti-communist movement. How dare people share views advocating increasing the extent of collective ownership of the state/the people/the owners. Looks like there's a few here punching down because they feel threatened by Caitlin's work. Projecting the accusation of "leftist totalitarianism" by framing anything opposed to the plutocracy is extremist and inherently totalitarian.

I'm not a communist - I don't delegitimise people's opinion from the right if it's not delegitimising the opinions of others on subjective basis. There are practically no people on the net advocating communism except for a tiny minority of actual communists, however it is common to see the label being applied to anyone to the left of Genghis Khan. I'm going to call out this as extremism when I see it. These extremists are just going to have to get used to defending the indefensible in their efforts to fully retain and extend the spoils of colonialism and imperialism.

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Sure I follow @caitlinjohnstone because I agree with a lot of the things she posts.

I happen to agree with @stefan.molyneux on the issue of Martin Luther King Jr.

Didn't realize @stefan.molyneux was considered an extremist, by people who are supposedly part of the alt-media.

Stefan isn't particularly balanced either, he'd happily frame me as a leftist totalitarian and I've never seen him acknowledge the existence of left leaning libertarians. That's not to say that he's not on point with his criticisms of warmongers corrupting democracy, I appreciate that, but I often feel marginalised and delegitimised by things he has to say.

Being an economic extremist does go hand in hand with criticising warmongers. We all agree it's a waste of money, but Stefan and many others who generically conflate "leftists" with Clintonites are extremely insulting. Clintonites are neoliberals and/or idiots. I'm not going to concede that they have successfully co-opted the left despite the MSM and parts of the right claiming this is the case. Clinton would have won if this were the case. It's all too damn convenient and opportunistic for the ruling class to use financial clout to systematically silence the voices of those opposed to right wing economics.

Stefan also partakes in identity politics as an antagonist with predictable results. Over egged responses are called out by left leaning libertarians - Kyle Kulinski does a good job of this. But again, it appears too convenient for identity politics antagonists to generate division based on prejudice, sucking the air out of the real struggle MLK helped identify, that of class.

Suzie Dawson @Suzi3D lays out a good analysis of this type of strategy here starting:

"This was the doctrine employed against Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, Malcolm X and Nelson Mandela, among countless others."
https://contraspin.co.nz/beingjulianassange/

If I were to accuse every person with right wing views as being plutocratic warmongers, I'd be being dishonest and absolutely disrespectful. One thing that can't be denied is the presence of plutocratic ruling class trying to co-opt the anti-war right in the same way Clintonites are doing to the actual left.

We've got to look out for each other, part of that is accepting different views of how we incentivise our work force, including people out of work, people whose usefulness is redundant or hasn't been discovered and those who don't work for wages as such. I think a line needs to be drawn to ensure everyone's survival of whatever economic system we choose to enact. That does not mean ponies for everyone.

Somewhere between all of us is the right answer.