What if Steemit could tell you the original creator of an image or article?

in #mediachain8 years ago (edited)

It's exciting that Steem pays users to post, but what if the content someone posts isn't really theirs? Do they deserve the Steem Dollars?

Mediachain is trying to solve the problem of misattribution by building an open, universal media library that can automatically connect media to its original creator, anywhere it is shared.

The GIF That Fell to Earth is a post from the Mediachain blog that tells the story of a GIF by artist Helen Green that went viral earlier this year when David Bowie died. It chronicles how she didn't get the credit she deserved as her image was shared across the internet, and explains how Mediachain can help:

What if any image, video, or song you saw online resolved to a chain of metadata that recorded and preserved all the important information about the life of the work on the internet?

The act of seeing an image would open a gateway to an artist’s identity, the work’s history, or more works by the creator.

Attribution would always be preserved, context and history would never be lost, and the life of an image could always be visualized.

This future could look something like this:

On a platform like Steemit, an image could be a gateway to the original creator, and it would be possible to reward them with Steem directly.

So how does Mediachain work?

In short Mediachain combines an open, decentralized database (a blockchain!) with content identification technology, like Shazam or Google Reverse Image Search. This means Mediachain allows applications and developers to recognize an image based on what it looks like, or a song based on what it sounds like, and in effect, turn a unit of media into an information transmitter that is always connected to it's creator, origin and it's history, anywhere it is shared.

The Mediachain protocol is open source and I am one of the project leads. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how a protocol like Mediachain could help the community here at Steemit.

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Welcome to Steemit. Mediachain looks like a fantastic application of blockchain tech.

Wow! This is a great concept, I think Mediachain would be perfect for Steemit, as someone who has had their work stolen on and off Steemit, I would love to see this.

At the moment on Steemit, there is a bot called Cheetah, and it can detect duplicated content and posts a warning in the reply.

However with Mediachain, maybe there could be a visible tag, over the thumbnail, which would make it clear that the content wasn't original, perhaps it could be colour coded, to reflect exactly how much of the material has been copied.

I think it's especially good for images, I use images that I see all over the place and it's impossible to know where they originated from. As a former photographer, when someone used my image, I didn't mind as long as I got a credit.

Very interesting; what's the timeline on it?

Cheers
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okay it looks pretty good , Upvote now

Looking forward to see this out in the wild!

One of my concerns for Steemit's future stems from the requirement that images = links. These links are most often to copyrighted content, sometimes to stock photos. It's one thing when a blogger uses your images on a not for direct profit post... Quite another when that image is part of blog content that makes more money than most books.

There's no way to sue the Blockchain, but Steemit could encounter Pirate Bay type issues with server hosting. And since the Blockchain is transparent, rights holders could track the movement of Steem to Bitcoin to exchange to bank, and identify the unauthorized user.

I like your idea since it includes rights holders in the income stream, and keeps users accountable for their decisions to use other people's content. The main difficulty I see is that for any content held by a corporation, you're talking about dealing with sclerotic institutions whose first reaction to "Hey, we found a way for you to monetize what's now piracy" will be to sue and or issue take down notices and or sue the founders personally...

That said, this is a great step in the right direction when it comes to fairness to original content creators who are now not sharing in the wealth being created partially by piggy backing on their content.

There's already a crude-type bot on steemit that tries to detect text content and images to notify curators/voters, but in a more classical way of analysis. I think more indepth ways like this, certainly have a future.

Just letting you know @jessewalden, I referenced this article in my latest piece here:
https://steemit.com/ethics/@condra/copyright-doing-the-right-thing-will-it-pay-off
Best of luck

One of the blockchain use cases is to validate ownership of music, articles, images, etc. I like where you're going with allowing authors and artist to be paid in STEEM for their work.

excelent! Geat job! thank you so much for allow us see this amazing creation! I hope that public you another thing soon ! and the founder of steemit @ned too he liked it!

I've seen this type of technology calling out someone elses blog post that was not their content. It did an automatic reply and referenced where the original article was from. Was that You?

That was cheetah bot and he needs our help...
https://steemit.com/steemit/@anyx/an-open-letter-to-the-steemit-community-on-content-plagiarism-and-the-cheetah-bot

Please any time you see cheetah bot give him an upvote, @anz has to pay out of pocket for the API calls to make him run.

@jessewalden I've had a bit of a rethink since my initial thoughts. The tech you describe, I can still see causing more problems than solutions when you try to attribute "ultimate ownership".

However this system would be helpful in a completely different way that I'm not sure you've explored.

Groups like ISIS and even less visible groups communicate by using and sharing visual imagery. An innocent image such as a cat picture can have embedded within it a message and the change to the carrier image is so slight as to be unnoticeable to the human eye. This is why terrorists love facebook and twitter so much. They can communicate secretly but completely out in the open...
Download this...
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/stegoshare/StegoShare/StegoShare%201.01/StegoShare.jar

Then run it against this...

And this...

If it worked you should see an embedded message in the second image about a HUGE drug score.

Current tracking software is primitive and doesn't consider the pedigree of an image.

A tool like this is valuable, because it could track every share of an image or other media on public networks. This could be used to create a "social graph" which could help to uncover underground networks and break darknets wide open.

Just some thoughts. Hope it's helpful!

Well come to steemit.
I live in Japan.

Fantastic!

Great article!
I'm a motion graphics artist and currently trying to come up with a cool GUI design for a video / portfolio Steemit channel for creative digital artists.
Mediachain will really help me in my quest to get more professional creative artists to migrate their content to Steemit. Keeping original content and intellectual property adequately recognised is so important . Also, this directly ties in to what I mentioned in an article I posted yesterday, where I mentioned that if it's of any value to me then it most definitely should generate value for you.
All the images or videos I have used in my blogs are content that I created. I have paid for licensing the music I use on any of my videos.

Credibility is very important!

I think this Voting for cash and blogging for mining, is an great consept. Ithink this could, be an realy great journey, and i realy like to join in for this great social media platform.

I think this is a great consept, but i think it is maby would be hard to realize. But i hope you figure it out, couse it is an good uppcoming.

Mind blown! This deserves support by all in the community! Not only voting for the creator with steem but also exposing fraudulent users who plagiarize others content. Another layer to guarantee great content

This would be creative destruction lol
I like this idea !
The same goes for original works perhaps a "Turn it in" style of verification? @jessewalden

This could be an awesome feature in Steem . It would minimized violation of copyright and intellectual property right. Contents must be original and to incentivize an article with other people's content is not cool.

welcome @jessewalden

nice project, keep it up!

I think this is a very important issue at the moment! , @jessewalden

Its a great idea, however the only true ownership of something is to TradeMark it. Someone saying they own something and being able to prove it is another case. Anyone can say they own what is going viral, but what would the process be to prove they are the real owner. I see a possibility of many class action suites in the courts. If you can find a way or even if there was a Digital signature on the product in question, then there might be more Validity. For now you have an excellent idea and I hope you work out the kinks and are able to get it going.

this looks like it has potential. i love the idea. sounds like a huge project, but a really cool idea

This sounds like a cool concept. What I don't understand is why you lost around $2 when I upvoted it. Any ideas to help a newbie?

I am excited all the time when I discovering a new usage scenario for blockchain. Mediachain sounds awesome. I will keep that in mind.

Well that was the first problem i thought about the day i joined steem.
Hopefully there`s a practicable solution.

Interesting idea.

amazing man its really great sharing for this platform specially. every one must keep in mind this post before sharing any content to steemit.

can you pull the image or file of the original off the blockchain? otherwise how could you prove?

I'm a little late to the party on this one, but this is an extremely intriguing project and I wish you all the best. It is stuff like this which I'm interested in seeing as a directly result of the blockchain technology. +1.

This is amazing. If this works, I would have a whole lot less of a problem should someone want to share my work. I don't mind if we ALL reap benefits of my work, but dammit I want my deserved share for being the one who put forth the effort to create it in the first place. The creator should always get the majority of what is made.

way good man , way good.

Great post, I think this is a powerful tool, any devs know how hard it would be to actually implement ? I would imagine pretty damn hard. Cheetah bot is a step in the right direction. Images are probably a bit tougher.

Excellent forward thinking. There's many exciting avenues to be explored with this ever growing platform.

Good, may be SteemIt need it

In history, there is often a dispute according to the authorship of certain things - for example invention of radio (some would say it was Marconi, the others would claim it was Tesla or Braun). The Mediachain protocol gives us a chance to end that kind of dispute (at least on Internet) and show the real author of particular creation to the wider audience.

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Very true indeed man . stay original .
Check my culture pre- wedding photoshoot mate ;) .
https://steemit.com/photography/@rainchen/borneo-dayak-traditional-custome-head-hunter-tribe-pre-wedding-photoshoot

@jessewalden this looks like an amazing idea. This would be a fantastic solution to some of the problems I outline here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@thecryptofiend/the-biggest-threat-to-steemit-i-hope-ned-and-dan-are-paying-attention
I hope you can get it to work and get the support you need:)

This is an intriguing idea. Rather than banning or blocking the use of content created by others, just automate the royalty payment system using a blockchain technology. It would be really cool if a database like Mediachain were directly linked to Steemit where the original creator is automatically paid a percentage of a posts earnings anytime the content is reused. This would be particularly useful for pictures, memes, video clips, and gifs. I, and most people on Steemit, attach a photo or gif to their posts to make them more eye catching. However, I usually have no idea who created the original gif most of the time. It would be nice to have an automated system that automatically paid the original creator a fixed percentage of a post's Steem payout anytime the content is used.

Yes, it looks good!

are you storing the actual original files for this?

i wish the foundin father could put thi up for debate

What would happen if someone photoshopped a picture already on the web? would it be able to detect the original content or attribute the photoshopped image to a new the user that posted it? Could you potentially have models where when you moused over parts it would tell you what the clothing was instead of tagging each individual article of clothing. I would wonder how specific a content would have to be and how something like girl talk (a mix of multiple songs in short clips mixed together) would appear. I love the idea and you are going to make some businesses incredibly wealthy along with yourself. It's brilliant

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