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But to say everything happens for a reason is a different argument. That would suggest everything is predetermined which destroys your old actions argument. It's an interesting topic that can drive you in circles.

Nice one @kevkong, you got me there...
Its true though that if we say everything happens for a reason it sounds as though everything is predetermined (religiously). Scientifically then?
Logically? Definitely we would just keep going round in circles...