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There have been vegan replacements for all non vegan 'foods' for quite a while. Healthier milk can be made using nuts (I do this every day), eggs can be substituted with several options - the liquid from chickpeas actually produces a result that is identical or better to egg white. Meat can be replaced in several ways and good cooks can produce results that would fool the majority of meat eaters. Unfortunately, what I have learned over 10+ years of minor involvement with vegan activism is that a surprisingly high number of people are simply heartless and barely conscious - some actually take 'pleasure' in the fact that the animals are killed for them to eat. None the less, yes, having substitutes is a big help.

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The replacements you described are interesting and may taste good, but are nowhere near nutritionally equivalent to the originals they are supposed to replace, and how do they compare in their costs?
For example, there is no way that a direct product of nuts is nearly equivalent to milk, or that a direct chickpeas product is equivalent even just to less healthy part of an egg, and even according to you they are not equivalent.
You are wrong for considering these vegetarian products as healthier, and usually it is the opposite.
What I wish for should be at least equivalent or hopefully superior to the originals in terms of health and costs and only then taste should be considered and only then appearance should be considered.
I believe that modern science and industry are capable of producing such results, but are not incentivised enough to break the R&D barrier.

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Cow and animal milk is unhealthy for humans, despite the propaganda from the dairy industry and their their 'science'. Such milk is intended to take a baby cow and turn it into an adult rapidly. Hardly the requirement of a human! Cow milk typically produces inflammation and can lead to numerous other problem, including osteoporosis - despite clams that milk is good for healing osteoporosis (SMH). If you are interested, the problem is that milk of this kind creates an acidic condition in the body which the body then has to try to resolve in any way that it can - which typically results in bones being leached of calcium to counteract the acidity.

Correct nutrition from a plant based diet is entirely possible and there is not real need to include meat/milk substitutes in that process. They are really just there because we are so addicted to having used them for so long. I only use nut milks because I like cereals but when I switch to the best possible diet I will use neither.

You are wrong for considering these vegetarian products as healthier, and usually it is the opposite.

I assure you I am not. You might refer to this presentation by Dr. Klapper - though I can also bring up countless other sources of science on this:

This is propaganda from the vegan lobby:

Cow and animal milk is unhealthy for humans, despite the propaganda from the dairy industry and their their 'science'. Such milk is intended to take a baby cow and turn it into an adult rapidly. Hardly the requirement of a human! Cow milk typically produces inflammation

There was a time when I consumed very little milk compared to myself in other times, and in these times my levels of inflammation were frightening.
When I lived more alone, and milk was my main food, my levels of inflammation dropped to zero.
Both CRP and ESR dropped from abnormally high to near zero.
I am almost certain that were other factors to it, but if milk was so inflammatory, my inflammation indices would not have dropped to zero regardless of the other factors.

the problem is that milk of this kind creates an acidic condition in the body which the body then has to try to resolve in any way that it can - which typically results in bones being leached of calcium to counteract the acidity.

In which part of the body does milk increase acidity and how?
I read about it in the past somewhere, but never saw or heard any convincing explanation to it.
My sources never claimed such claims.
At least some of them are bribed, and regardless I may be wrong and always learn new things.
As corrupt as the animal industry is, the vegan lobby is corrupt too, and has its own financially driven agenda, donors and sponsors, like soybean and other manufacturers of vegan foods.
I read a study that mannose, ribose, and other sugars that are in milk are highly inflammatory.
I believe it, but I also doubt it, because this study may be sponsored by the vegan lobby, or vegan food industry.
About milk, your reply was the first time that I encountered this claim.
Vegetarian oils tend to contain higher ratios of omega 6 to omega 3, which actually make them more inflammatory than animal oil.

Everyone's experience is unique, but in my case, what I have said here is reflected by my own experience. I had serious inflammatory issues my whole life until I stopped using dairy.

I don't have time to write a fully response at the moment, but you can review this video as to why it is not recommended to use any oils of the kinds commonly used (in my own diet, I find it easier to get omega 3s than 6s anyway - though that is uncommon in society):

This dude is so uninformed that he presents facts in a way that is meaningless.
He collected results by others, made them into an edited video, and this video is merely a collection of factoids which do not lead to any conclusion without lengthy processing and further research, which could and should be done without this video anyway.
To reply to his video in detail will take over 5 times the length of this video.
Better watch What I've Learned and Eric Berg.
Eric Berg is corrupt himself, but is at least well informed and truthful in over 98% of his claims.
His only intentionally misleading claims are about honey and his adrenal fatigue product which contains cortisol.
IMO he exaggerates about the amount of vegetables that he recommends to eat.
It may not be harmful, but is just not so necessary.

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