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RE: The Bill of Rights (including The 2nd Amendment) was written to 'Protect The People' from their own government, not from each other. Which explains WHY 'career politicians' WANT your gun.

in #life6 years ago

How do guns help when the people are not organized among themselves and the government has armored vehicles, aircrafts, far better guns and trained, organized, disciplined, paid, professional personnel to employ their use?

Even adoption of heavy weaponry by local militias and a revival of the confederation will most probably fail against the Federal forces.

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I agree with this exactly. I actually support the idea of the people having enough power to potentially, if we all band together, violently overthrow a government if it becomes tyrannical. However, that is just not realistic any more. I'm not big on gun control, but what is some dude's AR-15 gonna do against a nuke? Or a battleship? Or a drone? Or a heavy bomber? Or a tank even?

Unless we start giving civilians nukes we will never be able to match the power of a government's military again (at least in the 1st world). Obviously we can't just give people nukes, so this idea of a balance of power between the people and government in terms of armament is unfortunately a relic.

This is the spirit of what I meant.
I am not completely convinced against or in favor of gun control.
Some governments which prohibit gun control are not more tyrannical than the US'.
Gun allowance are a good reason/excuse for the militarization of the police.
Guns can help the people against the government if the are smart (reminds me one of my old threads which was about tyranny)
Guns do ease on mass murderers, but are not necessary for them.
I may post about gun control in my blog.
Guns in the hand of common people increase the chances of shootouts between civilians and between them and the police by a lot.

Yeah, I am also moderate / have mixed feelings about this issue as a whole. When I look at countries where guns have been banned in recent years, they don't seem like they suffer from much tyranny to me. When I think authoritarian governments I don't tend to think of the UK, Australia, and France for example. Then again, I hate the idea of the police being heavily armed and citizens being basically unarmed.

HOWEVER, I think it is much more important that we fight the existing authoritarian policies of our government in the US before we act like we care about freedom. When people are getting locked up over having marijuana and then forced to work for basically no money in for-profit prisons for a decade, we have serious issues in this country. I wish that everybody who cared about freedom for gun rights cared about those issues as well.

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The ratio is thousands vs hundreds of millions, moreover; if a member of US armed forces is giving 'what he believes' is an illegal order, say 'to fire on civilians', his sworn duty is to disobey and arrest whoever gave that order.

The ratio is thousands vs hundreds of millions,

No.
The US combined forces are over a million big in personnel.
I believe that it is without counting reserves.

You also exaggerated the size of relevant US population by counting hoes, children, disabled and sick and elderly.

moreover; if a member of US armed forces is giving 'what he believes' is an illegal order, say 'to fire on civilians', his sworn duty is to disobey and arrest whoever gave that order.

This is your only hope, and I doubt that you can rely on it.

The US military is dwarfed by the armed civilian population, but that doesn't matter cause there's not one chance in hell they would fire on their own mothers and brothers.

And if you think that American "hoes, children, disabled and sick and elderly" would let a bunch of child-eating ghouls take over this Country, then you haven't spent much time in the States. They'd go after 'em in pantyhose, wheelchairs and crutches with pepper-spray, shovels and rakes.. so welcome to America.

The US military is dwarfed by the armed civilian population

By the same ratio (near 1/280) that an infantry platoon is dwarfed by a village, except that an infantry platoon is not as equipped as the army.
It lacks air, naval, electronic, armored and other elements that the "army" has.

but that doesn't matter cause there's not one chance in hell they would fire on their own mothers and brothers.

This is the only hope for the civilians, and they will probably not even need to face their brothers, and much less their mothers.

And if you think that American "hoes, children, disabled and sick and elderly" would let a bunch of child-eating ghouls take over this Country, then you haven't spent much time in the States. They'd go after 'em in pantyhose, wheelchairs and crutches with pepper-spray, shovels and rakes.. so welcome to America.

Only a small minority of them might do so in a few remote villages, and less few ghettos.
The vast majority care only for their day to day survival.

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