I'm not arguing with you and I apologize if it came across that way. We're both approaching this from different angles and that's cool. I'm just not prepared to give either one of them one inch of ground as I am convinced that they are both very evil men. When people defend them I get my back up.

I've partied, and being friends and business partners with multi-millionaires and they don't have anything that I want. To be frank, I have very little respect for them.

Your shifting away from materialism and back towards a more natural lifestyle resonates with me. I've been moving in the same direction over the last few years. I've killed my own dinner, got my hands dirty and I love it and I intend to do more of it in the future. I've lived the high-life and at the time I loved it but I also realized that it was superficial.

Shame on these men for not realizing what we both know!