Hey everyone!
In the last post I promised to take a look at 2 questions. Let me answer them right away and go into detail afterwards.
- Why are we here? – We are here to learn and collect experiences.
- Where do we go? – To a place we can't comprehend with our limited senses.
Both questions and their answers are connected to the question 'What happens after death?‘. They interrelate, it’s a huge complex of different things. If you understand ‘Who you are‘ (Part 2) it will be easier to follow. Imagine a couple of pieces that make up a puzzle. Each part is as important as the others. Ideally I'd like to talk about all of them at once but that would go out of control and probably no one could follow anymore. I try to describe each single piece of this puzzle with these posts. The puzzle itself can be seen as a synonym for my belief, view on things, comprehension of the world, of life… call it whatever you think is appropriate. It’s all the same.
Let’s take a closer look on the question ‘What happens after death?’ and my answers to 'Why are we here?’ and 'Where do we go?‘.
There are different views and different answers to the question ‚What happens after death?‘, ‚Is there a life after death?‘. You can find basically 3 different views which made their way through the history of mankind.
-/ 1. Something which has become very popular during the last centuries in our culture: Nothing.
There is nothing after the physical death. This view is established on an world view that says: There’s nothing else besides matter. The human body is just a ‘connection of chemistry’, organic matter, which decays right after death. And nothing else remains. This view of the world goes back to the antiquity and was omnipresent in different cultures. It is very typical for our time, the so called age of enlightment and it is declared to be the ‘right one’. Basically due to natural scientists who mainly affect the view of the world for many people. They believe everything comes to an end after death and ‚we’ are nothing more than this body.
I can't share this view.
2. On the other hand there’s a second opinion which is also very prominent in our cultural area for centuries.
We have 2 parts here and it affects approx 2/3 of all human beings on our planet. 2/3 ! That’s a lot! If we take into account that about 15% of the population is irreligious (mostly China) the combined amount of both religions and their followers is just incredible.
a) The answer of the ‚church‘ and I’m struggling to call it ‚christianity‘ but it's easier so you know what I mean. (‚Christianity‘ is one of the most misunderstood terms in the world, that would be a different topic though).
b) the answer of Islamic culture
Both have something in common (if you break it down, I don’t want to start a fight here :): Judgement day.
Koran, Sure 4:136:
‚O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah , His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray.‘
Bible, Evangelium of Matthew, 25:31-46:
‚Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels…Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.‘
This view is established on the world view that ‚we are more than just the body’. The body dies but a part of it, the crucial part, survives – the soul. The individual. And this individual soul enters an intermediate zone right after death, some sort of waiting room until judgement day. And right there someone decides if you’re going to spend the rest of eternity in hell and burn in flames or if you are going to spend the rest of eternity in the heavens, next to ‚god‘. I believe many of you have heard this story and were teached it at school, I was as well.
I can’t share this view.
Both views, 1 and 2, are not really comprehensible for me let alone convincing. I don’t feel ‚mortal‘, it’s not like I’d stop to exist right after death.
The answers you get – both christian or islamic - are not convincing. In fact they are very much built on a strange black & white thinking: Either you are a good human being and you’ll enjoy the heavens for eternity or you’re a bad human being and suffer the purgatory flames of hell for eternity.
That’s basically pretty superficial, the world is much more differentiated to say that there are just 2 destinations after death.
3. If you study and research this topic you’ll inevitably stumble upon a 3rd option which is definitely not officially teached at school.
And this is an option I can present with full conviction: Transmigration of souls.
This view basically has one thing in common with option 2: We are more than just our body. There is an eternal and immortal soul. But with the great difference that this soul migrates from your former body to a new one, to collect experiences e.g. on this planet we call earth. (That’s the answer to the question ‘Why are we here?‘) This migration ultimately leads to a new question: What is all this for?
Is it an endless or infinite gathering of experiences or is there a goal at some point?
The goal of the transmigration of souls, the recurrent reincarnation, is to be not born again.
To go back in to the freedom we initially came from, to where this journey started. And to be able to get back you definitely need more than just one life. At least the most of us – most of the souls on this planet. That opens up a complete new horizon.
If you consider you make a mess of 1 life, your current one and you’d have to burn in the purgatory flames for the rest of eternity – that would be pretty unfair. A lifetime is only a few decades and suffer for the rest of eternity? God is never ever so unfair.
Death is definitely no longer an unfathomable mystery of which we have to be afraid of due to lack of knowledge. Death is a doorway and our existence continues on the other side, that’s something I realized very quickly. All of those who believe it stops, all of those who have to believe it or just are afraid to believe something else – it doesn’t stop. How it continues though depends on your current life. There’s no paradise for all of us, there’s no hell for all of us, it’s a continuation of a path, this current life is a part of this path.
YOUR path.
Where do we go?
We can’t comprehend this ‘place‘ or 'situation’ with our limited senses. We don’t have the words to describe it. There are no words to describe it. You’ll be able and allowed to critically examine your past life though, yourself. You are and were responsible for it. You’ll judge your achievements and failures. Judge the chances you took and the ones you’ve missed.
… to be continued in the next post.
Next time I’ll talk in detail about transmigration of souls and reincarnation. Both terms are inseparable. This would go beyond the scope of this post.
Thank you again for your attention,
Have a beautiful sunday!
There's nothing after death.. well that's my take.
And you are free to believe that @kevinwong! I made a post about my take :) Make a post about your take! That's steemit. All the best.
It'll be a very empty post I'm afraid.. haha :)
haha :) don't be afraid. A few meaningful sentences are sometimes more than a whole page of empty words. Really curious to read what you're about, foremost why :)
Maybe I'll write haha :)
Personally I think if its something that we can't comprehend (since we're out of the human mind after death), it will be an entirely different paradigm, and it's pretty much equivalent to nothing if we were to relate it in our human experience. It wouldn't be a human experience. Nothing, but at the same time, something. :D
Afterlife...the brain's distraction to ease our fears of death and help us go through the shitty moments of life. Life before death is much more wonderful and 'miraculous' than any promised afterlife.
My total disagreement aside, it was an interesting read. Upvoted.
My father, the single most conservative man you could meet, technically died on the operating table, and was brought back to life, thanks to the wonders of modern medicine and the dedicated team at the hospital, who I will never forget.
He used to hold the same view as you.
Not since.
#foodforthought
I 'm glad your father made it. I have seen dozens dying on any type of hospital bed you can imagine. Some were brought back, some were not. Even though experiences are always exciting to hear, I would never put my trust in the oxygen deprived human brain.
Thank you.
When we are discussing deceased humans, I would, we have no other human experience to base our 'beliefs' on... :)
I think the human experience is way too often pushed to the side, because science.
Science says, give me one miracle - the big bang, from there, we can explain everything.
Well, I believe, if science gets one miracle, then so do I.
All the same, love, respect.
I don't think any scientist would describe the big bang as a miracle in the same sense that a believer would describe what he considers a miracle.
''Experience'' in the way it is used here, is just an interpretation of an event and it varies according to how each individual brain perceives it. It can be appreciated, taken into consideration but never accepted as a fact.
So, what are his views now? Did you post that article somewhere? I clicked on the #foodforthought and it was a dead end.
Hi @littlescribe, his views are that there is something on the otherside. I may do a post on it in the near future. Oh, sorry about that, I did not intend for it to link anywhere in particular, I guess no-one else has posted that tag before, I thought it may have linked through to some food-for-thought type stuff. Apologies.
you're father seems wise and I bet that was a humbling experience. I know in my heart that "God" is an eternal love incomprehensible to the hardened hearts. Jesus was here to teach and make fishers of men, the only hope to save mankind in the end. Yes.... I do beiieve there have been multitude of "Jesus" ie>>> http://www.ancient-egypt-online.com/egyptian-god-ra.html Now if you look back into our history, we have had many forms of Christ who all represented Christ. Sun God = God Son :D I do like the direction you're going with this post. @sascha Namaste~!
Love and light is the only path, however tempting it may be to stray from that path, love is always the answer and provides me a path in the darkest hours. 100%. :)
I too, had an acquaintance, who died in the hospital and was brought back from the other side.
His life prior to the experience was filled with scam and theft to support his drug addiction.
His life after his experience was a full 180 degree turn, practically a different person, giving rather than taking. When I asked him, "what happened?", he answered, " All the pain that I had caused everyone who loved me, at the moment I died, was multiplied 1000 fold back at me in such an explainable way. It was black and cold."
Very chilling.
#foodforthought
Hi @nulliusinverba! Thanx for the upvote. Life can be wonderful indeed and is much more tangible than a promised afterlife. I think we should learn to appreciate both. All the best to you.
Likewise, if we seek to love and love to find then.. we will fly over the eye of the needle and in the blink of an eye. What fascinates me most is Revelations 20:15-21 15 The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16 The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[c] in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17 The angel measured the wall using human measurement, and it was 144 cubits[d] thick.[e] 18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19 The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth onyx, the sixth ruby, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth turquoise, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[f] 21 The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of gold, as pure as transparent glass. NOW.. Does this not somewhat resemble a perfect circuit..? 12 Jewels represent perpetual motion, Golden flourescent streets of gold represent a pure connection..but have you seen the math!? :D
Someone is copying you check this out : https://steemit.com/blog/@sasccha/our-life-on-planet-earth-part-3-what-happens-after-death#@iggy/re-sasccha-our-life-on-planet-earth-part-3-what-happens-after-death-20160829t090437472z
thanx @iggy, that's very nice of you! I upvoted it, maybe it stays on top so people see the fraud.
I have commented it , but when i got up to top i see that's not your username , i mean wtf people are doin.
Just crazy man, thank you so much for bringin' it up!
Can't wait to read more... thank you for your beautiful writing again and namaste :)
You're weclome and thank you very much @eric-boucher! That motivates me to continue :) Haribol :)
Sometimes I think that in my previous life I was a panda! ;D
Cool post @sascha!
Thank you @richman!
I beg to differ with you on this matter simple because it is written: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment ◄ Hebrews 9:27 ►
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 1 Corinthians 15:42-44
Jesus Comforts His Disciples
1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
4 You know the way to the place where I am going.” John 14
Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second dead.
I'm in a bad mood so I will just lay it out for you. The idea of the path is correct. We're all programmed in one way or another and that results in what happens to our "physical" bodies. Otherwise, we create our own reality and without knowing it you meet architect/archetype(s) which choose what path is best for your body/mind. Some have huge numbers and cannot intervene in all so they essentially upload knowledge into storage centers which spread their design. Now, whether or not we are being handled by entities with similar feelings and physical form is unbeknownst to myself but I deduce that they must be aware of pain, love, depression, etc..because how would they know to create such things in the first place! The key behind it all is the ability to stay neutral and cast aside any learned behaviour that drives you to reject another person's truth...because truth is in the eye of the beholder...
Oh, and by storage centers, I mean priests, gurus, what have you...
Very interesting read @vermonster. Thank you, I can see a lot of similarities to what I believe is ‘there', you just chose different words.
If you read at least the first chapter of the Bible, you will see that even in the Garden of Eden, God gave humans free will
and still the man makes his choice where he will fall - in heaven or hell
Reincarnation was coined, to absolve themselves of responsibility, as well as to monitor the person and his social status. So, this theory is very developed in India to a person who was born and lived in his caste, hoping to live in the next life is better
There are many testimonies of people who have been in heaven or in hell
While I am a big fan of Jesus Christ, I really like the reincarnation theory as it seems fair and compassionate at the same time. Although this theory is not officially Christian. I like the idea that life is a game or a school where you can "win" if you give enough love to your neighbours, which is what Jesus taught. But that if you fail to give enough love for whatever reason, there is always a second or third or fourth chance.
Hi @io-io-io. I'm a very big fan of Christ – if we are allowed to call it ‘fan‘ :) I'm a passionate Christ! I'm just not catholic, orthodox, evangelic, whatever.. you don't have to follow any religious beliefs to believe in Christ. That's something totally different to me. Totally. That's again a different topic, I was actually planing to talk about it a few weeks ago, we'll see.
I had some meditative experience that made me see (and feel, oh my) that indeed, we are more than the material existence.
However these Eastern reincarnation beliefs don't quite cut it. It's just some kind of worldly interpretation as well. Things are more complex still.
There is a source energy we all come from. Though we are still part of it, it's like a prism, mandala, kaleidoscope. Then there are different planes of existence. Hard to describe.
We have to understand eternity, though we don't. But we are loved.
Hello @herzmeister! Thanx a lot, that sounds great! I believe past life experiences can be very helpful for your present life, it was for me. To understand who I am and why I am like I am. It's a very interesting field (and a part of the puzzle as well). We don't understand eternity but we're loved. Beautiful. I second that.
Interesting read. You are very brave writing on this subject. I'm a believer according to the Bible and I believe I will experience eternal life according to those scriptures. That is if I continue to try to live as the Bible directs. There is no way we as humans are equipped to understand the details of how we will have eternal life and all the transformation that will take place. I wish, as an average human being, that were so. On that note I think we have to live the best life we can and follow the Master through faith. That is not always easy for me. Then, there are so many questions such as where will Heaven actually be. I had a professor that believed Heaven would be here on earth. So many questions....
Eternal life could not be attain without doing something. You mentioned that human doesn't have the clear understanding on how to obtain eternal life. What if I will tell you that we knew the way to eternal life as mentioned of course by the bible. All the answers can be found in the bible but we could not just read it by ourselves and obtain the understanding, we need somebody to help us understand. I myself could not do that but I can find a way.
Well, we basically know everything, we've experienced it probably many times already, each of us. We just 'had to forget about it' for this lifetime to wake up, explore and learn to to able to evolve. And if I got you right: Yes, the bible is very hard to read, nothing can be taken and understood as it is said. Everything is a synonym.
Wonderful reply @team101. Thank you very much! I don't believe we'll ever get all the answers, maybe we don't need to, maybe it's not necessary, we'll see.No one promised it would be easy :) I agree with you, we can't understand the details no matter how hard we try. Wish you all the best!
actually the afterlife in religions and what will happen has always been a conflicted question. In one sense, you need people to hope for an afterlife, but you don't want them either to make suicide to get faster in the afterlife.
That's why religion don't send you directly to heaven (and the idea of heaven is also relatively recent (beginning middle age I think))
The sad thing is that there has always been conflicts between religions and no one really cared to compare the roots. It has always been about 'who is right' and still is. And I agree, e.g. the church makes you want to believe that you have to deserve to be in heaven. Obviously it works. Thank you @djim34 for your reply!
You're exactly right! The oldest trick in the book was played by the devil ( a sneaky serpent that has a venomous bite ). Jesus did not come to set up churches but to set up "the church" of one truth. Religion is hocus pocus and there is only one God , he is all of our God. :D
Thanks for sharing your views @sascha. As I believe you've misrepresented the Christian view of life after death, I just wanted to clarify what I understand to be the overarching message of the writers of the New Testament.
The "cursed" and the "righteous" as Jesus referenced in Matthew 25 are not distinguished by human performance, whether one is good or bad. Rather, all are "bad" and therefore all are deserving of eternal separation from God. In the same way, no one can ever be righteous or good by being a good person.
Instead, God in his mercy has made a way for people to be made right with him not through good works, but through faith. Eternal life begins when you believe that Jesus sacrificed his life to free you from the penalty for your sins. This may sound foolish and antiquated to some, but it is the view of early Christians and the majority of Christians today.
Romans 3:10-26 is a good summary of this view.
Of course, there are some presuppositions upon which this view are rationally based:
I'll vehemently defend your right to reject this worldview. I just want you to be clear on what you're rejecting.
Thanks again for provoking some meaningful thought on the afterlife :)
And thank you very much for sharing your thoughts @jasonstaggers. I appreciate that a lot. I don't think I've misinterpreted or misrepresented something, I just said 'I can't share the view' of Judgement Day. And that is very much black & white, heaven or hell, paradise or purgatory. Still a view of a wandering soul searching for answers, namely me. It's just a view (and many share the same view) out of many different views out there. I agree completely, God alone is to judge. All the best!
Dude if I could just give you one piece of advice, whether you ponder on it or not it's this.. Research all the religious books, find the similarities, look into your heart, and seek the truth. If love is eternal then hate is death. Looking into each other we find the true meaning of life.
Well said. And I've done it already.
I'm afraid you just made the question more complicated: What happens after your LAST death?
I'll try to talk about it in the next post, that's a very good question :)
Do you mean to say:
Where do we go? – To a place we cannot comprehend with our limited senses.
Instead of:
#deathisnotreal
Thanx, fixed! :)
We'll leave all the things here in this life and move on to another eternal life, some people won't be with us and other that we did never met them will be with us (or maybe not) because they prepared for the eternal (new) life just as we did here in this world. So if we decide to be good people here we'll sure meet the same ones there we need just to decode the message in our hearts and have faith.
Nice words! Thank you @mohammed123! All the best to you.
You're welcome @sascha :D
your posts are really great I'm following you
Personally I find the idea the end of life is the end of consciousness to be comforting. Imagine - all your bills, all your pains, all your arguments just go away. Sounds a lot more peaceful and rewarding to me than eternally bickering with family on a cloud.
Nice article! Really extensive and well explained. If anyone wants to look further into the matter, check out Ecclesiastes 9:5 ;)
Thanks for sharing this. I used to be open minded to the idea of the Transmigration of the Soul, until I began to recall certain past life experiences of my own. Now I am not only open minded to it...I'm pretty certain of it. It really is the only theory of life after death that makes sense to me. Good to find you here @sascha!
Hello @fraterralph. Great :) Past life experiences can be very helpful for your present life. It's a very interesting field. Thank you for your reply!
Indeed I have found past life memories to be helpful to my Spiritual growth in this life. Issues which previously made little sense to me, once seen according to the big picture of issues faced in multiple lives, suddenly make a lot of sense. Very helpful. :-)
In the end, it does not matter what view you prefer; it is only a believe. It cannot be discovered according to rules of science. It cannot be shared as an experience (even if some claim to do it). The only thing that we do know is that it is a significant change of the current situation. Maybe there is nothing, or we only have one chance, or we have many chances. The concept of what we see as fair or not will not determine what it is.
Thank you @krabgat! I completely agree though it doesn't hurt to talk about your feelings, views, thoughts and beliefs. See what happens? People talk about it, we talk about 'god', people discuss here withou fighting about 'who is right', that's in the sense of love, of god.
Well , now you going somewhere . The idea of eternal soul is something that is on my mind for long time . Religion has nothing with it . You can be whatever you want to be , bad choose bad future , good choose good future , in this life and in next one .
idea of eternal soul ? that's an original idea...
lol
Maybe i sed it wrong , i was meaning existence but on/in another form , lol'd all day errday
Hey @iggy! Thank you for your reply, that's pretty much what I'm goin to talk about in the upcoming post or posts. You pretty much outlined the concept of karma.
Hope to see that soon , keep up , i like your writing
Oh wow cool.It's the most informative and very well written.
Thanx @terrano. Happy to see you enjoyed it. My pleasure.
@sascha Love your post!
Will have to write about some of this sometime myself.
Does it mean that you dont believe in the Bible?
Hi @juvyjabian! No, it doesn't mean that. I didn't say it. I believe in god and his plan. I was just talking about the theory of ‘judgement day'.
Good to know that you are @sascha, then you already have the answer on life after death. :)
No hay nada después de la muerte física ?
Nadie lo sabe, y este desconocimiento es lo que ha creado las religiones que se nutren de el temor que esto genera en las personas y así logran tener un gran control sobre el publico. Porque a fin de cuentas sea cual sea la verdad nadie la conoce porque nadie ha regresado de ese viaje.
I've thought about this over the years and have had personal experiences of my own which has formed my opinions on the matter.
First, I think that the purpose for us to be on this planet, at this time, is purely to experience living in a human body in a 3rd dimension reality. Nothing more. It's like we have all chosen an all-inclusive human vacation. Everyday, we get to choose what excursions we partake in and which other humans we interact with. It's all free choice but the free choice can be manipulated by other souls also choosing to have experiences in human bodies. Our scriptures and records are only interpretations of other souls' experiences based on their memories created and recorded by a human mind. You can choose to be manipulated or not, by them. Choice and experience is the purpose of life. Judgement is a choice and an experience. Have it in your 3rd dimension reality if that's what your heart, gut and brain think they need.
Wow
OK, I hope you are right, I have my own thoughts on this but will be silent about them at least for now. Where I have doubts on what you write is quote "To go back in to the freedom we initially came from, to where this journey started. And to be able to get back you definitely need more than just one life" Why would we leave that freedom to come to this life? Why not just stay very happily there?
Hi @gduran! This is a question I'd like to ask myself someday, if possible. Why all of this? It's god's plan.... Call it freedom, energy, source, god...god has thousand names as we know. I'm curious to hear your thoughts:)
To go back where you started from is ending where you left off.. I would leave freedom in search of happiness soley due to this fact alone: I have been locked up 6 months out of my life and couldn't have been more blessed and humble to find the "truth" in jail, happiness is where the heart is. :D
as i understand it you conclusion of 'what happens' Is Orphic/Gnostic which influenced or were influenced by Eastern philosophical ideas of transmigration. The idea that in order to ESCAPE the 'wheel of birth and death' one must lead lives of ever escalating merits of 'purification' until you go to a place of everlasting bliss.
But the one you have left out or do not know of is the ancient religion of the Great Mother where there was no desire to escape because nature and the body and changes were sacred. An eternal coming and going of diverse exploration of forms and experiences. This is the one I resonate most with
Awesome @julianoneill. Thank you for your reply. I appreciate and respect your view, 100%. I don't think there a place of everlasting bliss though, your evolution continues on 'the other side' (let's call it like that for the moment). 'The Great mother' as you mention it also appears in other religions and beliefs such as hindiusm and christianity. In the end we all talk about the same thing: Semi-devas, devas, angels and finally God. He's not alone, he's not ruling it by himself. He has 'the ones to help him'. All the best.
Spot on! Have a look if you got the time;) https://steemit.com/life/@emanuellindqvist/can-you-keep-an-open-mind-for-nine-hours
So what about cats or is it just us ape things that get it.
Hi @dave-hughes. From what I have learned and what I can tell, animals don't have the same sort of soul as human beings. We have an individual soul, an inner perception, animals have a 'group soul', a spiritual being that 'acts' from the outside. Maybe that helps. It's a topic on its own.:)
I always speculated that we will either continue to exist in some other form or we should blend up with a higher conscious that created us.
To 'blend up' with a higher consciousness or entity is teached in Buddhism, there's no individual eternal soul, no god. I strongly believe that we will continue to exist, in whatever for that may be. It's still YOU or ME though. We keep our individuality. Thank you for your reply @aschatria!
In fact to 'blend up' meaning to ceased to exist losing our ME or YOU, in case that one earned a few negative scores during Earthly existence... Passing to another form will include keeping individuality as a prize.
Sincerely I have doubts about the existence of Hell. It would be a huge waste of energy and effort.
I got you, totally. And I agree, that would be a huge waste of energy ::)) haha.
Also, by some logic teh God is represented like a positive, creative and uplifting energy who loves everybody. Now, why would such an over-developed entity in his/hers/theirs higher state of mind create a huge concentration of negative energy and shuffle it all into place known as Hell?
To delete, reload and repeat negative outcomes of existence sounds logical in comparison of let's waste an eternity to think of all the security measurements necessary to bungle all nastiness of Universe in 'here'.
your article is interesting to read. great post. upvoted
Thank you @crowtactic21, happy to hear!
У нас ограниченные представления о самих себе, потому что мы их сами и ограничили. Мы решили опираться на чужие мысли, чувства, желания, отсюда боязнь выйти на свое индивидуальное отличное от чужого мнения взгляды. И нам удобно говорить о своей беспомощности, о всесилье стихий, случайностей, непредсказуемости и т.д.
Что вы не знаете, что после смерти, вы опять вернетесь на эту Землю, что бы опять встречаться с теми же личностями, с которыми не "договорились" в прошлой жизни? Знаете. Но игра в материальную жизнь захватывает иллюзией обновления, как бы я уже другой лучше, чище. Это обман. Лучше и чище вы станете только тогда, когда поработаете над собой, своими качествами, как личности не планетарной, а Божественной. И жизнь для этого нам дается. А смерть это финиш, успели - хорошо, не успели - на повтор...
Hi @alexya! I used google translate to see what you said. Awesome reply, thank you very much!
There is no such thing as a final end all "death". Energy can transform but not be destroyed. People die around you but you will never find yourself dead. What came first, the chicken, or the egg? They come at the same time, the chicken is the egg and the egg is the chicken, one didn't come from the other but transforms from the other. Natures sings the same story through all life, look at leaves how they change colors through seasons, and then come back year after year. When your jail cell of a body and brain finally fades away you will just find yourself in a place obeying different laws of physics and even more so aware in full realization that you were creating your reality the whole time. The illusion of separation will be over.
Hi @bitswift! Thanx for your inspiring reply!:)
Life is a span of time. Death is a singularity, time ceases to exist and you see all moments as one reality. You are reborn and time starts ticking again.
My belief is that our GOD (or Gods) are aliens, much more intelligent than us who truly do love us, and will return, but are far away from us, perhaps giving guidance to some other planet from the 'Goldilocks' zone, many, many light years away. Guidance was left to us (Bible, Koran etc) to show the way to live together, but we don't learn well, do we?
My idea is: we have no rational proof of what may exist after life (and if there is something or not) so the best attitude is:
pretending that nothing will be after that and live our life at its best
This doesn't mean we believe that there is nothing, it means we pretend there is nothing to live here in the best way, without illusion of a reward in some future afterlife :)
I think that idea of transmigration of souls is a most viable one and I have reasons to believe in it myself. My only problem had been, and still is from a highly personal human perspective, is the limited human phenomenological understanding of time.
What I mean by this is that there is much evidence to postulate that linear time is an illusion, and if this is the case then the linear understanding of a transmigration as it were might be a little flawed.
Linear postulates of time have as a tendency the tendency to create hierarchy; that is I am this person now because of what I did and I will be this person in the future because of what I am doing now (I was bad before but now I am ascending towards become enlightened and better). But what if all time is a 'spacious present' as I like to call it?
In which case there is no migration or separation per se, all exists now, and the separation between one self and the other (or the movement of the soul from one body to another as it were) is an illusion brought about by a limited 3 dimensional perspective.
Sorry not trying to be cryptic, just trying to expand on the ideas of the article by asking the reader to contemplate the idea that all might be far more complex than one might suppose at first, and that there might not be any such thing as evolution but that all exists now in an ever expanding present point.
We are made out of chemical energy, the universal law is that this energy can't die.
Agreed :)