Right now, as I write this, I'm using an old PC to set my coffee on. It was the old box that ran the surveillance cameras in a retail store. It was given to me for free because it did not work.... I took it home, got it running, watched some old video of shoplifters and people picking their asses... wiped it clean and used it for parts. I still have my old gaming rig from 2005 kicking around here somewhere too. If I wasn't so busy, I'm sure I could have it running again like new. When I built that, my ex's mom called me a moron and said I should just be like a normal person and buy one. So much kindness in this world! LOL