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RE: Consciousness and Matter, our reality is a mass hallucination (featuring @njall as author)

in #life8 years ago

From this post I take it you're persuaded by arguments from people like Deepak Chopra and Rhonda Byrne. If not, I apologize, and admit I failed to understand you.

Perceptions aren't related to consciousness. We perceive quite a lot of things we're not conscious of, and process a lot of sensorial input before it hits our conscience. Your camera perceives and has no conscience, a living disimbodied brain could have conscience and no perception.

To say perception creates our world on a quantum level is a tremendous leap from the literature I, at least, have been reading. I see this argument coming more often from mystics than scientists. From Wikipedia:

In quantum mechanics, there is a common misconception (which has acquired a life of its own, giving rise to endless speculations) that it is the mind of a conscious observer that affects the observer effect in quantum processes. It is rooted in a basic misunderstanding of the meaning of the quantum wave function ψ and the quantum measurement process.[1][2]

It seems you agree this isnwhen you say even scientists don't understand this reality. So... do mystics?

Don't you think we know far too little of the quantum world to claim any kind of non-scientific understanding from it? And too much about the universe to think ourselves are in any way special?

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The fact that the mind controls perception, as it happens, I will describe in following articles, Yes, many processes occur at an unconscious and automatic level, but is also part of consciousness and it is possible to learn to manage.
Yes, facts are a lot of people speculate, but Wikipedia is not the final station, we are far from a real understanding of the world, and perhaps the answer is not in the suspended logical study, and the need to rebuild our consciousness and have direct experience new facets of reality

I do agree that Wikipedia doesn't have the final say, but it's not without merits. I'm by no means an expert on physics, but judging by the literature I have access to, the influence of mind of matter (or energy, or quantum-anything) is gravely overestimated, to say the least.

But what I don't get is this: you start your post saying science is on your side, and that we are just not accepting it, and then go on to say that "even scientists don’t understand this reality". If you're claiming to have more knowledge on the matter than scientists, than what's the source of this knowledge? What's the use in assuming there are other hidden facets of reality beyond what we can reach with science?