Vlog 224: The results of a high SBD price. A personal view.

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The SBD has been trading on the exchanges for more than it's intended for a while now.

The SBD is an IOU for $1 worth of STEEM. But it's currently trading for $5 on the exchanges.

Now to put this in more familiar terms think of it in strawberries.

Let's say 1 SBD is worth $1 worth of strawberries in the shop, why would you pay $5 for this SBD? When you could just go to the shop with your $5 and buy $1 of strawberries and keep the $4.

But this is crypto and I'm sure that on the exchanges not everyone knows about what a SBD is worth.

Now, the high SBD has a lot of benefits. I highlight them all the time.

More rewards for content creators and it pays for development on the steem blockchain. For @blockbrothers, the witness I'm part of, the higher price is a blessing. It currently pays for our servers and an external dev we hired.

But a high SBD also incentives self voting because the Return on Investment for doing so is very high. Especially for those those who do not blog much.

This only makes sense.

Any steempower holder normally would benefit the most from a STEEM price that goes up. If you have 50k steempower it means that a $1 increase in STEEM price increases your investment with $50,000.

So, with an SBD worth $1 doing whatever you can to add value to the STEEM blockchain and make it go up in value makes the most sense.

But with a high SBD price self voting becomes an interesting option.

With 50k steempower ($200,000) you can upvote yourself 10 times a day for a total of around $300 dollars a day. That's $100,000 in a year.

That's simply just a very good ROI.

Now if the SBD was worth $1 then the total would be $75 a day or $27,000 in a year. A little over 10%, still ok but less worth it. Adding value to the blockchain and raising the STEEM price would become more interesting again.

This post is not intended to say wether all this is bad or good. I'm just always looking for reasons why things are happening.

Personally I think in the future the SBD price will come down all by itself as more and more of it is printed over time. (total supply right now = 9 million SBD vs 3 million SBD, 3 months ago).

I talk about it more in my vlog.



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Steem sits with all steemians. If you are an HODLER you can see that you have to protect it.
Lately the price is steady around $4+, it shows the correlation with the demand of steem and everyone is confortable with steem valuation.
A lot of work ahead of us to get steem worlwide. At first they do not understand it, but slowly it will go widespread.
Keep on steemin'

I am not interested in knowing what the real reason is behind SBD price rise, i know for sure that this platform is generating good traffic and new users from the moment SBD prices moves above $1 , forcing many authors and curators to remain active on this great platform and making it more and more profitable... God bless those who are pumping SBD prices, wish them to push it even harder!

Yep, I love everyone who keeps SBD high. Best greetings to all of them, you're great!

i love sbd than steem

I agree @hms818. The current SBD price keeps new comers motivated and gives them a moral and a momentum boost. There's a lot of climbing to do on the platform to reach your target audience so why change the rewards that encourage that? Its one of the reasons why we have seen some big youtubers join in the last 4-5 weeks. Take SBD to the moon.

this literally made my day 😂

Amen to that :)

youtube is dead

thank you so much for this exyle! i'm new on steemit and invested up front in steem then powered up. not planning on powering down anytime soon. i love curating and voting on others posts. my own will come very soon, i'm a vlogger on youtube for about 9 years now. i've picked up on a "shame vibe" or perception if one up votes their own comment, it's frowned upon, so i've been uncertain to do so. i've noticed that bloggers upvote their own posts though. this article made me feel much more comfortable with spreading it around....to even me. i love spreading the steem around!!!!!! i love STEEMIT!

Yeah obviously. Just like any Company's share having face value as $1 but may have worth of $15 in exchange.
@exyle, I didn't understand one thing and I'll appreciate if you explain the reason behind it. On steemit platform we earn SBDs on our posts but why total amount of SBD's increase/decrease with the increase/decrease in it's worth in USD.
Like if my post earned 10 SBD and that time 1SBD=4$, if SBD falls to 3.5$, value shown on my post will decline to 9.5 SBD for example. What is the reason of this dual impact?

sbd shot to like 17 bucks last dec...

The payout is calculated with a 3.5 day average of the STEEM price. So when the STEEM price goes up you will see your payout increase and vice versa. The price of the SBD has nothing to do with it.

Oh. Like how our account value is shown in our wallets, on average.
Thanks for your response Bro :)

You should check out Elliot Waves analysis SBD on tradingview. SBD to the moon! 🚀

@exyle do you think the creation of more SBD is related to the inflow of newbies to the platform?

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve been trying to find more info on how to best build my SP, support the platform, and create a nice passive income for myself. Any advice will help...

No, as he explains it's related to the average price of steem over a few days. The more steem is worth the more SBD's get created at time of payout.

The average price of steem has to be effected by the number of new people demanding steem... so that’s why I asked the question...

Well, as things are right now the majority of the demand for steem comes from traders on one exchange, and I have my own ideas on that as do others. Nothing wrong with asking questions, sorry if I sounded dismissive or insulting.

I do agree with you

In other words, as a long term crypto-investor. Keeping sbd on a long term would be very risky, preferably we can just convert to steem and keep instead.
Thank you very much for this info @exyle
You rock!!💪💪💪

Long-term I agree. Short time it's harder to predict.

Yes, we really can't predict what's in store for sbd in a short run.
For minnows like me, we're just going to enjoy it while it lasts and hopefully capitalise on it as much as possible

It's an epic time to be a content creator for sure, and part of the reason we are not 'working' any more I assume! :D

I'm impressed at the stability of SBDs in recent weeks, as I like many suspected it was on the way down to its 'home' of $1. To see it fall below STEEM and now be worth 20% more again is very interesting, but I'm certainly not going to complain!

It doesn't matter if you are cashing some out, buying STEEM, or throwing some at Bidbots, it's all good right now, and long may it continue!

Have a good day man!

I agree completely. At some point the supply of SBD is going to grow to the point where it has to collapse. Personally, I think those on the open market buying an asset that has a stated value of $1 for $5 is pretty foolish but then people do foolish stuff everyday.

When the peg broke, there were 3.5M SBD...I am not sure how many there are now but last I looked it was 6M or 7M. When does it get too much? 10M? 15M At some point people are going to dump it.

I hear many say that creating so many SBD is a problem since it is debt, a liability against the blockchain. The fortunate thing is that it is only $1 worth of debt. Plus, as the price of STEEM increases, the amount of that token it takes to retire the SBD is actually lessened.

To retire 8M SBD at $4 STEEM requires 2M STEEM...at $10 STEEM it only requires 800K STEEM.

As long as the price of STEEM is increasing, the debt is not a problem.

Thanks for sharing your view on the SBD. I share your thoughts and it leaves always the feeling that the voting system of steem is overengineered. Just to many variables and of cource the system produces what it is incentivizing.

I think to a certain degree people with major steem investments always have also the long term perspective (I hope) so they probably don‘t want to spend their full 10 votes on own post (and hopefully not creating therefore spam posts which unfortunately happened also). But definitely it make sense to upvote own content. What I am doing at least is upvoting my own post as late as possible what increases curation rewards for all upvoting my posts. So kind of win-win.

I think it used to be even more complex back in the day. I think we got rewarded in SBD, SP and STEEM. Also we had the n^2 curve. I remember being able to upvote with 1 cent after I got 10,000SP. How times have changed.

Of course, It's still not 100% simple but I do think it's better now.

I'm also invested for very long-term. that's why I never powered down since I joined. I like the idea about the idea of voting later, it's been mentioned to me before. I'll keep that in mind.

Thanks for taking the time to explain these things in a way that those less informed can understand @exyle. I will have to listen to this a few times to really get it I think but I can see now why so many people who joined about the same time as I did are leasing delegations and upvoting themselves like mad.

On a different note - I think I made a mistake with my witness vote. I voted for @exyle some time ago but didn't get an error message. Should I have voted for @blockbrothers?

No big mistake but indeed my username is not the witness (it therefor won't register). If you still want to vote for our witness you can find @blockbrothers in the list here we are in spot #38. And Thank you.

Done! You're welcome. I'm very grateful for all the time you put in to help educate us in ways that are easier to understand. 😊

I also think SBD price will come to $1 in the future as the SBD supply. As STEEM supply is linked but SBD. As the price of STEEM increase the payout in SBD also increase which will directly increase the supply.

Enjoy while it lasts as SBD is still trading above US$1. Love your videos as always, Exyle.

Good that you can pay for your server maintenance. Upvoted!

Thank you!

You're one of the good guys, @exyle . Some really good points that you make, especially about the currency peg. Will need to read up a bit on forex and currency pegs from my days at the university, but it sounds to me from your video that content creators really can't count on a high SBD price forever. Other Steemit bloggers have been talking up $20 Steem (and higher), and now I'm starting to think that maybe that is being a bit too optimistic. Is that right?

I think long-term the price of SBD will move back to $1, but it could be a while.

on the other hand I think long-term STEEM will go up in value a lot more. I don't think $20 is unreachable.

Personally I think in the future the SBD price will come down all by itself as more and more of it is printed over time

Let's talk.

So what do you conclusively advice? Save more steem or channel it to other crypto?

Sell your SBD long-term (short term I don't know what it will do) for something else.

Looking at the current trail sir.
Sbd is higher than steem, though steem looks promising.
I have not started saving steem or investing in other currency, but with this information, I'm sure gonna start.

Thanks so much for this insight

your witness team is really doing an awesome work Upvoted for you as a witness already awesome :) work you all are doing

@exyle,
There are a lot of SBD prints day by day! But I think it's market supply is not yet enough to hold SBD at $1. I hope 8 - 20 times of current SBD market supply can hold SBD at $1 again! According to me it will take time! So we can enjoy this great reward at this moment! Great discussion you initiated today!

Cheers~

many people are predicting that price will touch 100usd what are your views on that

thanks for info, hopefully SBD will stay above $5

I have post - sad truth about SBD. It may be helpful

Excellent video friend and many congrats to blockbrother on reaching 38 spot in such short spade of time, i 100% support you and blockbrother, well SBD right now doing great and i think investor's or buyer's who are buying sbd might not know that sbd is just an internal currency peg with US$ and it has limitations but on the other hand steem coin has huge open space ahead with no barriers and i hope once people identify this then the huge momentum will be shifted back to steem and we might see atleast 10$ in that time, so at the moment convert SBD to steem is not a bad deal at all, thanks for educating us friend, wish you all the best in all of your future endeavors! Stay blessed

I remember reading the Steem Whitepaper and it said that the value of SBD should be at most 10% of the market cap of Steem. If it was higher, it would create instability with the system. You brought up a good point regarding self voting. If there is so many SBD, people will not contribute properly to the blockchain and just be concerned with cashing out. The only way for the blockchain to combat this is to disable the interest rate for SBD which is why it is currently at 0% APR I guess...

Actually a high SBD is an incentive to keep steem locked in SP, if steem went to 100 but SBD stayed at 1 you could be sure that more would be powering down.

It isn't necessarily about keeping SBD at $1. The whitepaper states that the total value of SBD should not exceed 10% of the total market cap of Steem. You could have SBD be worth $10 USD if Steem was $100. And even if it was $1, why would people power down? The SP would allow them to accumulate more SBD over time.

In a period of market fluctuation like we've seen in the past the price did not remain high for an extended period of time, both the last time and this time we've seen a lot of powering down going on and cashing out of steem, but this time SBD was higher so voting power mattered more during this pump phase so more people stayed locked up in SP.

I never really understood it this way but you did a great job at explaining. I really want both SBD and Steem to moon.

Great perspective. I haven't really put much thought into it but rather just go with the flow. Now you've got me thinkin' a bit. There's always an inner circle involved in anything in the know as well.

update about SBD
Thanks

Steemit.com is an investment in the self.

I love the way you outlined the SBD / steem relationship. SBD is like an instant reward for those who blog. It is the reason why those who cannot invest are on steemit today, especially now that you get much lesser Steem power for at post payout than it used to be when steem price was less than $1.

No matter what the case may be, I still think a high SBD price is good for majority in the steem ecosystem.

I think the issue is as always, traders and the the perception. Calling it Steem backed dollars was in hidsight perhaps an error. People see the word dollar and it gives it a sense of security, or even legitimacy which gives the traders confidence its value. Its also encouraging people to produce more content, albeit a lot of it rubbish but nonetheless, anything that encourages members to write and stay in the community is not a bad thing especially as the retention rate here as been reported at a dreadful 12%.
Best wishes and another great piece. Thank you :-)

really right...bro

I think that it was a mistake, they should rename it and disavow any association with a peg to the dollar. They run some risks if they continue to do so.

@exyle I am actually OK with the higher price of SBD right now. I have a couple of things I am going to to over the week to take advantage of this current higher SBE price. It will be Fun for all...................

Thank you @exyle for sharing that

In future, SBD will go down to 1$ with the increase of users on platform.

Steem turbine sounds interesting . Good luck for it and as long as SBD trades high I am going to convert it to steem and power up. haha when you self vote doen't look good you said but that's what people are doing mostly. But you cannot judge it as fair or unfiar. :)

Your example was good and very easy to say, I agree with your words

Big topic today... on many blog posts. I cant help but feel like if the value of the SBD drops, it will be hard for those like me who have only gotten a small taste of having the extra account value boost.

Its hard to imagine ever getting my Steem Power into thr thousands- not for sake of money but sake of voting power and desire-ability. I want whats best for the Steemit platform but i cannot deny also wanting what is most personally lucrative.

Yes, I'm quite sure that steemit would not be nearly as attractive to most if prices were negligible in their ability to help people earn money, at least in its current form.

Let me tell you something higher SBD price is attracting people towards steemit in our country.I think not just in our country also all over the world.For an example today i earned 3 SBD it means inour local currency it is 1200tk.If the SBD price goes down then a lot of people will leave steemit.Thank's for such valuable post.@upovoted and resteemed

Prekarsny analysis, my friend and the fact that the price of SBD is high in any case gives more incentive to ordinary participants for development, when without investment can not do! Thank you Mark.

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Man it's very complicated to understand the above things ..I just want to see the SBD price to moon & wanna earn few SBD in here on my steemit account .thanks.

thanks for sharing a story.........i am every excited your post.............keep it up.......

There is no how you can not gain from posting a good write up on steemit.com. The value of SBD goes up depending on the forces of demand and supply. If more people deposit or invest on steem it keeps moving up. so let us keep encouraging more investors to come in here.

@exyle sbd is almost equal to 5$ on different exchanges .

thanks for share dtube i am always saw your dtube video

Sigh .... Wish I had 200K power. Just upvoted my own comment ... nadda sob sob :( lol

Is sbd goes down then should the value of steem go down as well?

let's hope the fight with the Y-gigant can be won :)

You are like a University level professor on this subject! Thanks again for the awesome education.

Thanks for the information by the story.
And thanks for the share on dtube.
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Sweet information
Thanks man

Great post Sir.
Thanks for the information .
Always appreciate about your video and article .
Thanks again for sharing with us in this great community .

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