We agree in some areas and disagree with others. I know generally about the struggles that face Scandinavian countries, but I don't know specifics, so I can't speak to that, but as to American issues, there is no beatdown of the white american male. I don't want anyone feeling bad, or having to apologize, and certainly I am going to sit how I want. I think that there is a over brushing of the term ignorant, racist, and bigot, but there is also lack of information and insight about how minorities and women have been treated historically. Socially, economically, physically, and legislatively. I think many people, including myself who have lived their who lives seeing these differences and find it hard to relay them in a way that others understand what we experience and where we come from. Now, can people say things are racist and sexist that aren't certainly, and I see it too often, but a swift dismissal and it shows how little people care.
As far as the white male problems....which are problems that plague more then just that demographic, but it is economic. Many predominately white communities, many rural, and many rust belt communities have fallen on hard times. Industry has moved out or automated, opioids have decimated families and then media focuses its' attention on immigrants and minorities. A population is being forgoton, and it is a shame. I think that needs to change , but a knee jerk raction to blaming immigrants, minorities, and the LGBT community is not getting to the heart of the problem. Some of the economic policies have been reckless and entitlements have gotten out of control.
Also, Europe needs immigrants. Europe and much of the developed world is nearing a demographic cliff. (which has already been reached in Russia and Japan. Countries arn't having enough children to sustain the population and without immigration the economy is going to see a retraction it will spell many, many problems.
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A white swedish woman was gangraped by 20 migrants recently. Kicked in the head, and abused in all holes. Just, so horrible you can't even imagine. 20 migrants did this, and people living in the apartmentbuilding (mostly foreigners) saw this taking place in front of the building. They did nothing to prevent it. When she managed to escape, people (mostly immigrants) laughed at her and pointed at the sperm in her hair and on her clothes instead of helping her.
Now..this got almost no media attention.
A 15 year old boy hit a 17 year old migrant boy. This received nationwide attention.
This is the madness we're facing. Gangrapes by 20 people is not something that used to happen in Sweden or Scandinavia. Now it's a regular thing, that doesnt even give media attention. The other way around though..a white kid hitting a migrant kid, gets nationwide attention.
Last year, a woman in a wheelchair was brutally raped by migrants. That means, anally,orally etc. A week later residents of the town demonstrated. What did the media focus on? White nationalist hatred..
If you protect this madness, you're part of the problem. If you tell us we need immigration you are mad. We've never needed immigration to build the best and richest countries on the planet. Now we are deteriorating because of it.
I have read the stories and certainly seen the studies about the increase sexual assault that has correlated with the increasing migrant population. I agree that the influx of non-western migrants one of the causes. I have read some refuting studies, but alas. I know there is a media bias in this. Sweeden has actually had some of the highest rate of immigration and refuge placement for decades. The immigration has just generally come from other western or other European nations. Immigration is important, but I would be angry and would want a solution if there were increased sexual assault and encroachment on my way of life. You have a tough situation over there
I'm all for free travel and for people to settle down wherever they want , IF there was anarchy/minarchy/small government (free markets, no taxation etc) but as long as we have a system that is built on taxation/theft, and redistribution of money, importing people from areas with VERY cultural, mental and ideological differences is a catastrophy. We've always had a high immigration rate of polish and chzeck people here..and we've never had any problems with them. Same goes with Vietnamese people. They are hard working decent people, even though they haven't integrated that well. But at least they're not asking for special treatment, leeching off of others, trying to push their religion on others..and most importantly, they are not grossly overrepresentative in crime statistics.
Luckily I'm not Swedish, and Norway has more sensible immigration policies..but good god is Sweden going down a retarded path. The level of evil it takes for a politician to enable this kind of changes to a society is unheard of.
Okay, I agree with that. As much as I wish coexistence was there, I think that was very well put.
Did you actually change your mind based on what someone else said that made sense to you? Did you actually listen and reasoned in your mind? That is admirable. Not something you see often. I appreciate that, and it says a lot about a person. Upvoted to the max and followed!
Haha yah I have a different outlook on how I look at the situation over there. thanks. You're right, it doesn't happen enough, especially over the internet.
Sensible and reasonable immigration policies are important, I agree with what you said. Something I don't like is the fear mongering and such strong anti immigrant sediment that it drives hostility toward all immigrants instead of outlining the problem precisely and looking at it objectively. Granted not many people and certainly not the greater population are able to do that. Enjoyed the discussion, thanks for responding. Look forward to more in the future. Go Norway!
Yeah..I think no matter what you shouldn't blame people for taking opportunities. When our politicians are offering people from regions where governments is something that usually just takes things from you, free money a place to live and even no punishment for crimes - and most of these migrants are young adults...it's just doomed to end bad. But it's not the migrants faults. It's our politicians and their social engineering.
One could say that I'm a libertarian/anarcho capitalist at heart, but in the current system that we are forced to exsist under, I am a nationalist. Not a racist, not protectionist, not particularly patriotic even. But the most dangerous thing to a country is to forcibly mess with its demographics. Just name ONE country that has a lot of "diversity" that is not just a living nightmare. And almost always is that problem a certain religion which we cannot name because we could be charged for blasphemy and go to jail (which is primarily housing Isl... migrants)
Thanks for the discussion as well mate. :)