I was not aware of @cbrsphilanthropy before this post ... it is indeed an admirable model of transparency. I have given them a follow and will watch their progress with much less consternation than the drama at hand gives me.
I suppose I was just raised differently than others ... I'm not even going to the store for you without bringing a receipt, your change, and a solid accounting for anything that costs more than was expected on that receipt (which sometimes happens in these inflationary times) that can be independently confirmed. So, it is incomprehensible to me that any project leaders should think they are entitled to $1M a year without providing at least the basics. I have read enough comments to know that part of the rationale is that some money is being spent on getting into conferences where leaders of said conferences don't want everyone to know who they spend on and how much ... but that's to me ANOTHER red flag ... so, we're spending money with people who don't want to do things above board ... but we're above board? It just doesn't make sense to me.
It also doesn't make sense from the viewpoint that Google is sometimes our friend, and therefore the best information in the English-speaking world on how to spend money to get Hive adopted is readily available from Chainalysis -- we know what the top 20 countries are. In that light, Venezuela makes sense with proper accounting, but the geopolitical realities mean that without proper accounting, that can be incredibly dangerous for all involved. Without proper accounting, trouble will arise from everywhere.
To me this is truly sad, because VP has funded some wonderful initiatives that I think many people would vote to see preserved ... but those same initiatives will be sullied with suspicion if this cannot be resolved with transparency.
To your points ... Nos. 2-3 and No. 7 I think would have massive purchase going forward, but I think a challenge we have on Hive is that many people in high places don't want to accept that Hive is largely a social media platform and that content creators are needed. I think some want to pivot to get more people here developing apps and games to bring in revenue ... the problem is, people like that can handle numbers quite well, and can quite quickly determine that some things aren't adding up.
There is a lot of information to digest in your post, individually and for the community as a collective ... there's a lot I wouldn't have ever guessed was being alleged. I already am voting the Return Proposal, with deep regret ... again, there are some initiatives in VP I want to support ... but can't. I've been down these roads in the real world in relatively high-stakes asset and finance matters; I already know this has to be cleared up before we can safely move forward.
That's how its done, and that's sure expected in business.
This is an excellent point. They're claiming they can't show receipts that prove they're not stealing our money because they're doing shady deals they can't reveal in public. How do they not recognize this only makes their claim the weaker, they're threat to our financial safety more marked, not excused?
Without proper accounting you're begging for crimes to occur.
Here's a quote from Vigilant News:
I think there are so many things in the VP because then everyone will find something in it they like and that gains it support. This is why I reckon it needs to be broken up into individual initiatives, so we can support what we like and not get saddled with things we don't - like rally cars.
You're absolutely right this needs fixing, or it's going to get a lot worse and do terrible harm to Hive, and the good people that aren't doing anything wrong in Valueplan, but are flocked with the wrong birds.
Thanks!
Have a look at this ... I spend time on Hive talking with people who love to talk ... when people don't even want to be doing the good they are doing for the sake of the good itself, but just as a means to an end, well ...
https://peakd.com/@lordbutterfly/re-deeanndmathews-sn9vdu
(@verbal-d, should you ever see this, the linked exchange confirms why I can't be involved with certain things any more ... and @mcsamm and @collinz, better look out. It's also in the Sept. 22 proposal from VP: any good being done is only being done as long as it gets attention. The minute the people at VP don't think they are getting sufficient press to attract the people they are really aiming for, it's over. It's explained in the Sept. 22 proposal, but the relevant quote is also in my response).
A point you made right off with your first comment to me was that fundamental principles matter, and this truth is apparently very elusive in some quarters. You made every effort to enable them to succeed, and prevent what's likely to happen instead.
Keep fighting the good fight!
I will keep fighting it -- even if the best I can do is make sure "we didn't know" is not a valid excuse!
I realized there are no excuses. There are only reasons. This changed how I think, and gave me greater peace of mind.
You are right. Most people do not see that, and so they think ... but no. We choose what we do for various reasons, but there is never an excuse for choosing to do evil.