I think we should stop paying taxes if this is what it buys!
Great writing and there seem to be some issues with "perception" in some "ethical" groups but i wouldn't say that many other groups are better.
The Industrial country populations silently watching as we are enslaved and abused are the true traitors to humanity. We know the way but do nothing!
These middle east humans u mention do now know the way... we must forgive and be greater, wake up!
The world is an evil place not due to evil men doing evil things.
But due to god men doing nothing about it
-Einstein
I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
"in some "ethical" groups but i wouldn't say that many other groups are better."
I figure it's possible you meant ethnic groups here, so I'll respond for the sake of other readers as well, even if you didn't mean that.
I think it's important to note that Islam is not an ethnic group, it is a religion. Those who have equated hating Islam with being racist are running a successful, but intellectually dishonest, campaign to prevent all legitimate criticism of this, most savage of religions.
I welcome anyone who rejects the tenets of Islam for a Western, liberal, individualist view into my country/community. My issue is with the religion.
The religion is not at fault, I do not see the verse as a call to "kill" infidels.
I see it as a call to call truth and slay lies, forgive but remember.... Its cultural and ethical interpretations and traditions at fault. But yeah the religion as it is seen today and worshiped today, is pure satanism!
The religion literally requires killing or enslaving all non believers. Repeatedly. It's all there in the text.
This was once a problem for other religions. They modernized.
If there is to be a "New Testament" for Islam that rejects the outright savagery of the holy book, it is already hundreds of years too late.
I have read it , have it in my hand now, the verses is not directly adressed towards infidels, its addressed towards our egoistic nature, but yeah still worshiped like satanism today. But my book is old one of the older English versions... Idnt might have changed a lot. I´ve heard that the translations past 1950 are more violent and easier to get wrong!
I will not be pulled into further debate with agent provocateurs (or useful idiots) denying reality:
Response to your edit: We all know these are not errors of translation. Too often, too clear. What, did they mistake the phrase "give puppy" for "kill infidel" when translating? LOL.
Koran 2:191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- îaram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. ?? It´s abour fighting back lol stop spreading lies!
True this can be miss read! Its about desires vs truth, lost in time, translation and culture.
This is a modern translation, which has lost all meaning.
This is the interesting part to address, wounder if its being manipulated for a certain agenda or just reflecting the ever more egoistic nature of humanity as a whole hrm hrm
All of those translations are far of my book here, but i dont like the quran it is hard to comprehend, harder than the bible which is hard! I like the Torah atm, thanks to the work of M.Laitman and commentary he has done. The book of zohar is even harder to comprehend but contains truth as all of these books do in the right hands!
The eastern(tao,buddhism,hinduism etc) learning are perhaps the most accessible today, because they still talk about or nature directly, and has not forgotten their enemies(enemy)!(our egoism)
P.s This is an oral tradition, the original writings have problems with phrasing right away..
Poor pictures and totally cheap propaganda,
you should read complete bro, not a piece. Can you read this phrase "you live in condomonium" to mean you stay, what if I read "you live in condom". Of course wrong like your low interpretation. is it true @clausewitz ?
Yeah the translations here are ridiculous, pure propaganda, then the interpretations of the translations are even worse, sad to see hate towards it.
Point 1 finger, and 3 will point back :)
Peace