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RE: Facebook’s Libra + Bitcoin + Trump + Israel = 666 Orwellian Dystopia

in #libra5 years ago (edited)

And they push their (or their church’s) interpretation of scripture onto their indolent and obedient flock

I don't agree, they merely interpret it for us if for example we don't understand certain parts. Also, we are not obliged to believe everything we hear in the church, they will (mostly) not kick us out of it. Read below why it's important.

We do not need another man to interpret the scripture for each us. We can interpret scripture for ourselves so we are not indoctrinated with the corruption that invariably results when people become indolent and expect to be spoon-fed information like obedient zombies akin to watching television. Mind programming. Propaganda. Lies. Etc.

From the story of Philip and the Ethiopian; Acts 8:30-32:

30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

We actually see how important it is that someone preaches to us. Philip had to go in the middle of nowhere to save that ONE GUY. We need people to preach to us. We don't have to pick one preacher and trust him 100% (for example if his preaching is incorrect), we can obviously also interpret certain parts ourselves.
Some are not capable of understanding it, thus they need someone to preach to them. Maybe you can understand the whole scripture by yourself, so I guess that is fine also (I'm not saying that it means that you should not go to church tho).

Look at Matthew 16:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Did He say that he would build a blog or a church?

Let’s draw a distinction between a church and a congregation. Christians could and should congregate to share their ideas about scripture and their love. This means everyone participating and interacting, not some master orating a speech. Maybe some individuals will become respected they often present solid ideas and explanations, but never should they be elevated to a role where the entire congregation just sits there indolent and absorbs a speech.

It is much easier for crowd to listen to one guy explaining a scripture, than free-for-all talking and interrupting. If you caught him in lies or wrong interpretations, just give him heads-up (afterwards) so that he can preach the correct doctrine.
I do not believe that it's just possible that each and every one of us can just pick up the Bible, hide in the closet and understand every verse clearly.
Also, the guy who preaches likely didn't come up with his own interpretations in the first place. Mostly, they actually discuss verses in a small group. Then make a consensus about their meaning.

Point me to a scripture in which God is just against ANY form of church.

I already did Matthew 6. Jesus clearly states that we should pray in our closet or room.

Let's quote the part I believe you refer to:

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

This does not seem to condemn churches, but praying in the public just so that you can be seen by others. Church is not only about praying.
What about 1 Timothy 2 then?

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

So it seems that we are allowed to pray everywhere together, but prayers are apparently stronger when we pray alone, when it's just us and God.

But the point is, I will need another clear verse that explains how I should not listen to people preach me the Bible.
It seems to me that Bible promotes preaching to others, assembling and praising the Lord, singing and praying together.

Why does Bible talk about "false teachers"? Then every teacher would be false!


John to the seven churches which are in Asia: [...]

And the church is this context is a metaphor for a taxonomy of attitudes, not for a synagogue, building or particular sect.

Why do you think that literal churches in different geographical areas are a metaphor? He even specifically says they are in Asia.
revelation 22:16

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Churches, churches, churches. It's plural.
Many today have forsaken the doctrine of the "local church", and accepted the false doctrine of universal (catholic means universal) church.

God’s spirit is present in the church, and God is speaking by the spirit to the churches.

Shudder. 😱 That’s exactly the sort of propensity to mind programming via emotional attachment and cultural manipulation that Eric S. Raymond is citing as the insanity of religion. You’re not helping me by affirming his point.

Apologies, but I am not the author of the Bible.

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