I got down to the courthouse just in time for lunch.
This is par for my course, I like evenings better than mornings.
Anyway, once I got through scaring the young ladies in the belly of the beast they call 'Records', I ran into the judge!
I can't imagine why those young ladies would be scared of me, but it does seem par for my course.
I would bet they don't run into many like me.
I was all sweaty from a 4 mile bike ride, too.
That tends to freak 'em out.
They think I'm all coked up.
Add in the crazy eyes of a man that has looked behind the veils, and I guess it becomes easy to see why they would be scared.
I'd be scared of me, too.
Anyway, I have decided to put the documents in another post.
This one will tell the tale.
On a cold and dreary night,...
No wait, it was a warm, windy afternoon.
Well, anyway, it was day time, during what you might call 'the week'.
I went to find the courtroom empty with a sign that said check in with bailiff.
Now, I usually tell a sign to get bent, it's not a cop, but today I needed to stay within the four squares of court room rules to get what I wanted.
So, I checked in with the judge's assistant, she said have a seat in the court room.
And I did!
Many people looked at me wierd, and then followed me in.
You seeing the theme here, dear reader?
Well, the judge comes in, everybody stands up, he waves us off, and tells us it is a dry run.
He sets up his laptop, looks around at all the DA's in the room, and leaves.
Apparently, I should have hung out and watched all those people not properly conform to court room rules and get found guilty, but I didn't.
I think I might start spending a couple days a month observing trials, just for practice.
Anyway, as I was sitting in the courtroom, minding my own business, the socialble people around me started to talk amongst themselves.
They were all wondering if their cop was gonna show up.
If the others had to pay the ticket to contest it.
I was too scared to jinx my case to speak up.
It was getting crowded in the room, too.
Lots of money for the snakes on that day.
I thought I saw my cop walk in, but he looked too young, too tall, and not dark headed, but he had all the facial features and mannerism consistent with my cop.
I couldn't see his badge, and I wasn't about to ask, for fear of jinxing my case.
So, I sat there quietly, waiting for my turn, betting I would be last so the others didn't learn from me.
But, NO!
I had to be first, 'Great.', I thought, well, in for a penny, in for a pound.
The judge says to me that my cop didn't show up and the state was dismissing the ticket.
You could've knocked me over with a feather.
I looked at the judge, asked if that was all I needed, he said yes and I was free to go.
So, I beat feet out of there.
I was about a half mile back towards the house before it dawned on me that if that guy was a snake he could just ball up that court minute, file 13 it, and there wouldn't be a lot I could do about it.
All I would have is circumstantial evidence that he could lie about, too.
They would be likely to take his word over mine.
Well, we will know in a couple days.
If the online records don't reflect the order I will have to move forward with other remedies.
Maybe make a bar complaint.
Bar complaints, while not totally useless, are unlikely to get one satisfaction.
You don't pay them dues, he does.
You figure it out.
They do go on their record, and if one of the other bar members gets upset it can be used to further their complaint, but don't expect any action on your's.
A couple of the lawyer looking folks in the elevator said that it was normal for this county to take 4 or 5 days to update the court clerk's records.
I guess I will give it a few days.
I'm short on time at this library, I guess I will beat feet home.
Thanks for taking this time for me, dear reader.
Without you this all would still be here,...
RE FUCKING STEEMED Also......3 words! DEATH TO PIGS!
Thanks for the update my friend. Funny the order follower didn't show up. I guess in the mind of an order follower the ticket is written and you're just supposed to obey and pay the fine.
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Yeah, I've sat in traffic court and watched dozens of hopeful people have their hopes crushed.
They thought they had valid excuses.
They admitted doing what they were charged with, then were shocked when the court didn't accept their excuses.
The da's office told me they don't do discovery in traffic tickets.
That is a violation of the 6th amendment.
It is a valid appeal issue, if you know how to get into the appeals court.
They didn't have any choice but to drop the charges or expose themselves to a due process violation lawsuit.
I can't wait to do this again.
If their policy is to not do discovery, then all I got to do is ask for it, again.
Think of all the cases, with paid for lawyers, that the lawyer tells them to take the deal, when all that has to be done is ask for discovery.
It's a racket.
Lesson 1 of traffic court...ask for discovery. It's elementary dear Watson. Haha!
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Mmm, let's make read the court rules first.
I wouldn't look for that to happen on a fresh case, nor in a more rural county.
But on the day I was there,... :shrugs:
We'll have to see what happens next time.
Can you guys record in court up there?
I haven't seen good video of the method in action, yet.
Just Ian's in Keene, NH.
Agreed on the court rules being read first I assume anybody fighting something on their own would have already done that. But you know what they say about those who assume so I guess I shouldn't do that. As far as recording in the courtrooms there are no visible signs in the ones I've been in saying you can't however a friend of mine was told he couldn't and told he would be removed if he didn't stop recently. Maybe I'll try it myself here shortly and see how it goes.
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If we could catch a win on video, that would be great.
I've been told that it isn't permissible most places, but I have also been told that if you record with your phone, and don't get caught, it is not permissible evidence.
My argument would be that it is for my records, and not to be entered as evidence.
I'd just like to see it for the propaganda value.
Maybe wake up some slaves.
the bullshit sometimes bobbles the mind how the sheeple conduct themselves. I love this post! thanx for laying it all out there.
Thanks for your kind words.
More on the way.
Cop is useless could not even show up, good for you though.
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Lol, I had them beat when they didn't give me discovery.
That is a violation of the 6th amendment.
They couldn't have the cop show up, or I had a valid claim for damages from their violation of my rights.
Much better post if the cop shows up and you get to enlighten the entire room.. but better for you this way
Yeah, they couldn't have that.
Their whole racket runs on folks not knowing, nor defending, their rights.
I had them when they refused to give me discovery.
That is a violation of the 6th amendment.
Think of all the paid for lawyers that tell their clients to just take the deal when a little effort would get their clients off.
It's a racket.
Of course it's a racket.. Courthouses are architectural wonders.. paid for by the legal system..
Paid for by the victims of the just us system, iyam.
I am sure the just expect you to pay a d they really do not have to show. Great job. Glad it worked out.
You gotta fight for your right to drive 83 in a 60.
Lol, no victim, no crime.
Think of all the paid for lawyers that told their clients to just take the deal.
They had a room full of them.
It's a racket.
Yes!
OMFG I LOLed. Have you sent him a thank you note?
I would.
Just kidding you. I joke about Stockholm Syndrome, but it's no laughing matter. Have you considered your desire to watch courtroom proceedings in that light? The Dark Side has it's attractions...
Go camping instead =)
Thanks!
Yeah, I laugh at inappropriate times, too.
Sometimes, just for the lulz.
I got another case to file, I am just waiting for the statute of limitations to run out so they can't recharge me IF I exhaust my appeals.
IF my case winning paperwork doesn't do the trick, I still have a state supreme court ruling in my favor in a nearly identical case.
The dates and names are different, very little else.
IF I win that one it will pay the lottery limit, 275k usd.
Eventually.
Ask for discovery! Thanks for the post :)
Well, there is a little more to it, but that was my win on this one.