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He uses his bot to downvote, meaning everyone who uses the bit bot gets a lower return. But that aside. How does it differ.

If I vote on myself with a vote of 1 STU
Or I send 1 steem and get a vote of 2.50 STU (loosing the 0.50 curration). And giving 1 steem.

What diffrence does it make? I get the same vote, so in essence i am draining the same pool. How would you all feel if Haejin would send all the bots 50 - 100 steem and get upvotes of 100 - 200?

Now see it from a bot owners percpective. We use the bot. We over vote, so the bot owner is winning money. Het gets his steem instantly, no risk for downvotes :D.

In essence he is not earning 100% of the potential and i know that but fyrstikken is using his bot for downvoting aswell. Wich potentianly opens everyone who uses it up for downvotes from whoever is using the bot.

In essence we are all abusing the system. I don't think vote bots where a intent of the creators of steem.

Trash trending posts receive downvotes. Who the heck expect to gain major returns from bid bots? It's an advertising tool. You are supposed to fish for the big whale votes with money spent on the bid bots.

Bot owners should down vote as needed because given their massive SP, they need to stand up for content standard as well. Whether that comes in the form of blacklist, whitelist, etc. it's an evolving system.

Until @ned, STINC, et al come in and say no, even then, your "intent" of the creators serves no purpose as far as the point of an OPEN platform.

He got 480 STU from bit bots.

Content standard? You call a video where is swears and act all mighty and strong good content? He actualy said in a diffrent post he would swim to wherever heajin lives and murder him and eat his heart. This kind of behavior should be downvoted aswell.

It aint because you have lots of steem you can act like a dictator.

Instead you should work on a solution so things like this can not happen in the future. Downvoting does not solve the issue. It only means you drain your own pool. Which is fine by me. But there are people around who actualy think of ways that things like that can no longer happen. But kids yell fire and run a diffrent direction. Or yell they gonna smack the big bully who does not do what they like.

a example of a good idea

Most customers don't get that 100% @booster vote. Also, let's not conveniently forget the fact that the man is a sponsor for contents and projects on the platform.

What does @haejin do? To Bitshares/Bittrex they go! Even @berniesanders, who many despise, happen to delegate to worthwhile projects.

Totaly true, but that is not what my initial comment was about. I agree with fyrstikken i just don't like the way he said it. It was disrespectfull. And even when you are offended and you dispise someone you always handle them like you want to be spoken to

Different strokes for different folks.

He loses points for professionalism, but gains some in being relatable. Can't say you are wrong for not agreeing with his tone.

Anyone who can relate to killing someone for not agreeing with them?

So, after like 15 notifications from your edits, that's all you have to say?

Content standard? You call a video where is swears and act all mighty and strong good content? He actualy said in a diffrent post he would swim to wherever heajin lives and murder him and eat his heart. This kind of behavior should be downvoted aswell.

Have you seen what @haejin wrote before he received the @booster smack down? Honestly, that is the most mild video I have seen of @fyrstikken just from what I could dig up quickly in 5 minutes.

Instead you should work on a solution so things like this can not happen in the future.

Like what? I don't like this type of generic answers. People here are operating based on the system that's set in place.

Until you find a way to convince STINC or tunnel your way into the Top 20, that talk is not only cheap, but meaningless. I saw your "good idea". It is a good idea, but how and when will it be implemented? If there is a huge road block, then we are back at square one. Good ideas have been discussed to death on places like @steemstarnetwork. The problem has ALWAYS been implementation.

What do normal users like me do? We use what the system has already placed.

Maybe you should stay on the dev side of things as it is your expertise?

Yes you start a war that can never be won. Today you strike down haejin and tommorow someone else. What will you solve? Why is your view better then those of others? Why is downvoting solving this issue, it clearly is not is it? I agree haejins posts are useless and are just made to upvote himself. But if the system allows it someone somewhere will do it.

So instead of yelling fire use the money at your disposal to develop something to help solve the issue. Just yelling and complaining does not solve anything.

Yes you start a war that can never be won. Today you strike down haejin and tommorow someone else. What will you solve?

It's to ease the symptoms until "geniuses" like you can actually implement your features after going through the hurdles.

Or, we can let the likes of @haejin go and collapse the platform; rendering me correct and all your ideas meaningless because Steemit would be dead when everyone leaves.

I never said a person like haejin should be able to do what he does. But the fact remains that swearing and killing babies is not the way to solve issues.