Following up on the exploration of natural amphetamine-like effects of white Kratom for partying long nights without losing oneself. Read up on part 1 here: The Quest for Natural Amphetamine | #1 | A Leaf? Seriously?
Speedy people vs. Kratomy people
It's kind of hard to talk generally about groups of people who dig a substance. As for speed, I have met many people who like it and who have their heart in the right place, who mean well and who are still "with themselves" under the influence of speed. They care, they are openminded and they just dig the high.
However more often than not, when I meet people under the influence of speed it can be quite weird. Especially when I am not on it.
The experience is similar to comparing the state of mind after getting up with the state of mind you had before going to bed. They are worlds apart, and so are the people who choose to go on shamanic explorations by using different tools and then meet each other later.
Where Speed can make one itchy and sometimes more aggressive and assertive than needed, I find white Kratom to be more controllable and benign. Though the energy presence is definitely there, it comes way easier under Kratom to temporarily suspend the high in order to dial oneself back a notch. If an hour after taking a teaspoon of Kratom you had a surprise visit by grandma, you could sit back and listen way easier than under speed influence where inactivity can sometimes feel very uncomfortable.
As mentioned before, Kratom influence does make it enticing to move and a good beat will almost certainly facilitate it, but as opposed to Speed: on Kratom it's always a choice. Kratom is like a magnifier for where you are with your inner state, not a reckless dictator.
If you are dancing already it will be hard to stop because it just feels so good. If you are sitting you can enjoy sitting, even laying down on Kratom can be a good experience.
I find that ending my night prematurely comes way easier under Kratom influence than with Speed. One line of speed demands daylong commitment from most users, whereas with Kratom sleep within hours of use is not entirely impossible nor uncomfortable. It's more like an experience ;)
Though Kratom's vibe is similar to speed, it passed some of my resonance experiments with flying colors. As we will explore in an upcoming floor-lesson, the energetics of your own state predefine who you will potentially meet and who is outside of your current zone of frequency. Needless to say this is only a model, but it is fascinating to observe how many people on psilocybin, cannabis and lsd I will come across when I am on Kratom, as opposed to when I am on Speed.
In this way, the natural energy boost of Kratom does not mess with my core vibe or resonance frequency half as much as speed or other chemicals do. Kratom is therefore ideally suited for responsible mix consumption provided you are careful and know what you are doing. If taken the right way, Kratom will not mess with your inner solidity - it facilitates healthy eye contact, even and especially if taken with small doses of psychedelics you dig.
Psychedelics & Kratom
Naturally after the first few tries on the floors, I wanted to see wheter Kratom would be compatible with psychedelics, specifically small doses of lsd. And boy oh boy is it fun!
Since our crew usually loves to start very small at festivals, I found a dose of about 20 micrograms of lsd and half a teaspoon of white Kratom to be amazingly impactful (which is somewhere around 1/6th of a drop of lsd and about 0.6g of Kratom leaf).
Where speed can sometimes dampen the effects of the trip or take the user into weird ego territory at a time when the trip wants to go a different direction, Kratom remains passive and subliminal under lsd influence and delivers its energizing effects in a most gentle and non-hangup way.
The same goes for mushrooms or truffles - mixed with low doses Kratom can really shine and keep its user focussed on the here and now experience rather than becoming heady. Due to Kratom's buzzing body high at medium doses, mixing too much with a trip could become somewhat uncomfortable especially if the trip is larger than just a small dose.
I will write extensively about why I dig microdosing so much as well as what combinations really work well for me to have shamanic experiences that foster growth but can still be enjoyable amongst thousands of other people.
Moderation is key
As with anything in life, moderation is essential. Where Kratom has helped countless people work through their addiction to hard drugs, it has also been reported by some to be addictive in its own right and needs to be sonsumed with care.
Kratom addiction is mostly described as an unwillingness to face everyday-life without the use of Kratom, so it is essential that the kratom user pays attention to addiction patterns.
As for me, I find Kratom's addictive potential to be more like psychedelics (i.e. almost non-existent), where I can enjoy even a few days of it in a row and then look forward to taking a prolonged break before the next session.
Please always be responsible when you ingest substances and always do your own research. We all react differently.
So what is comparable? Is there anything else besides white Kratom that works similarly?
There probably is. People have been looking for Ephedra for years - that however has been banned in most parts of the Western world and can now exclusivelybe found in nose sprays and other pharmaceutical products a psychonaut should not go for to have a clean experience.
The usual go-to's for energizing are Coffee and Guarana.
Really, coffee?
Yeah no, if you want to stay awake for a longer party session, coffee is just not going to cut it (I speak from experience). It peaks fast, fades rather quickly and leaves my stomach feeling funny after only a few mild cups. the body high of caffeeine is just not very pleasant on higher doses and I can feel my brain buzzing in a most hyper and non-gentle way. I prefer Kratom's effects anyday and it would not surprise me if it was actually healthier than drinking several cups of coffee. If your caffeeine tolerance is low though, one cup at the right time can do wonders and definitely has its place.
Guarana?
I kind of like it, but it doesn't deliver the necessary punch to it. At the end of the day, its effects are similar for me than a coffee - welcomed but seldomly fitting for 12 hours of more dancing after a long day of... dancing.
"I am super-hardcore! Can I snort Kratom?"
Damn, are you hardcore ;) Due to the regular consumption method for Speed many people are curious if this ground up leaf can be taken through the nose.
I have not done experiments myself, but a good friend of mine has. He mixes Kratom with Ginseng (50-50 currently) and says the mixture is just awesome. For the sake of novel scientific insights I shall probably try it at least once, as Ginseng also has a lot of potential to be used for the purpose of reenergizing the body (and is very healthy at that).
Since Kratom does absorb lots of humidity though I am not sure how well the snorting process would work with it. Until I try it I shall use a glass of water or juice for easy ingestion. There are some really good taste varieties out there if you are not fond of Kratom's aroma, just be creative.
So where do I get it?
There are many shops worldwide where you can legally order Kratom (depending on where you live), so just do a search and read some reviews before ordering. Remember, the energizing strain is "white vein".
Due to its "legal grey area" and the fact that it's a freakin' leaf it would also be easier to persuade coffee lovers to try out Kratom for a day and see how they like it. The plant is increasingly gaining popularity as the negative longterm effects of coffee abuse and the party scene's affection for speed make it a viable and healthy alternative to enjoy for a natural and noticeable boost of energy when the party is far from over.
So how about you? Do you have Kratom experience and if so what do you like to do when under its effects? Do you dig white Kratom as much as I do, or have you found the other strains to work well for you?
The Quest for Natural Amphetamine | #1 | A Leaf? Seriously?
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After reading your first post about Kratom yesterday I did a little bit more research and ordered some. I've never heard of it before. So I'm very excited to try this :)) ...thank you for writing about it! <3
Wow that's so cool to hear. I am really proud of how many people with a good heart I have shown Kratom to and how many are happy to look into it.
A friend of mine recently helped another friend move, and he was still carrying furniture and boxes well into the night when the rest of the crew was complaining and moaning that "we're still not done". My friend on the other hand had a blast carrying things around all night even though he normally isn't the physical type.
One teaspoon at the right time is just such a great tool, whether it be chore-related or for dancing. Looking forward to hearing from you how it was <3
I have never been a big fan of stimulants. I tried cocaine a few times when I was a teenager but it just made me ramble more than I already do lol.
I have heard good things about kratom though.
Try red-vein instead and prepare some tee to go next to you on the table by your bed where you will just lay down for hours not needing anything ahaha. It hardly feels like the same plant but is so greatly relaxing it's a crime. Not useful for dancing though ahaha ;)
Haha. Yeah I have heard that some of it is more like an opioid and relaxing. It's a strange plant.
Totally strange
I have not used white Kratom ever. But the combination of white Kratom and LSD is deadly my friend. No one can get out of this mess easily if one develops addiction for these things.
I am smoking and drinking for last 16-17 years but I could not develop any addiction for these things. I use these things, and sometimes in large quantity but I can remain without these things for months. Is this possible for everyone to develop such habits?
I certainly agree that anyone who uses any substance has to be invest the time beforehand to research as much as possible, and be prepared before going into the experience.
I do not know of any toxic effects when mixing lsd and kratom, but as I mentioned: this only goes for small doses of each. A full-blown trip is best not mixed with anything unless one is highly experienced and is aiming for a specific level of shamanic experience. As for "deadly" do you know of any information that shows a correlation or is this more a retorical remark in terms of advice?
I dig Kratom precisely because I can handle it so well. Not sad if I don't have it for another year ;)
Hope you have been well my friend
I am fine my friend. Thank you.
How are you?
Good just getting ready for the next phase here after the summer. Life has been good to me
great post!