I didn’t watch it yet. But by the quote, I can tell it is so one sided, perhaps ignorant. Usually one sided relgious debates don’t go anywhere meaningful.
Open mindness and good faith engagement is a must in these kinds of debates. Rarely happens though.
So, did you really just stop by and say "I am judging this book by its cover, and I can tell it is so one sided..."
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I thought the man's name was funny, so I started watching and was not planning to watch but a little bit of it. I am getting an education, this man knows both sides in a way I am BETTING you do not. Not claiming to know what I don't know, you know?
In this case, the title and the quote are making bold and maybe hateful claims. Keywords - "danger", "destroy". So yea claims can be judged too. You can replace Islam with any religion and can have the same effect.
I have watched 40 minutes of it. Which part did you find educational? It seems he is just making up stuff.
I have studied international affairs, politics, cultures, and religions. I know a little bit. One-sided speeches, propaganda serve as dehumanizing groups of people and lead to stupid wars, crusades, invasions, terrorism, etc.
Any ideas, ideologies, religions can be used for starting wars, causing destruction and suffering. History is full of examples.
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He was RAISED in the middle east and was a TERRORIST for a while. I think he might know more than you picked up in your "studies." Not listening to people because you DECIDE you do not like what they say is a surefire recipe for staying ignorant. Not stupid, ignorant: You ignore what is right under your nose.
If you have read my comment you would know I have watched it. You didn't respond which part you found educational. Just came back to call me ignorant? How cute.
So by your definition being raised in the middle east and being an ex-terrorist is a qualifier to be an authority on the topic?
Anyway, there is already too much hate in the world, I don't think more is needed.
It gives me a view into a world I would not otherwise have. I find that educational. The entire thing was educational. Information is a good thing, especially information you would not otherwise have. Why do you care what I found educational? The point is to educate yourself.
I asked because you responded to my comment saying you found it educational. If that is the case you should be able to elaborate on that to have a meaningful conversation and share something of substance.
There is plenty of information (and misinformation) on many topics these days. Establishing authority on the subject is part of getting proper education/knowledge. Unless of course you think all information/knowledge from all sources is equal.
P.S. I already conceded that the speaker knows what he is talking about in other comments. I still don’t agree with the message though.
Seriously, I apologize. I am just very, very tired of people who are itching for a fight and it could be I see them where they do not exist. What I found educational was just his view, I really do not know how else to describe it. I do not take every word he says as the gospel truth, we all see through our personal filters and we all speak from our personal bias. The notion that the "anti-Christ" of Christianity is the same as the Mahdi... I think that was the term... savior for Islam was a bit of actual new information for me.
As for the message, may I suggest you at least stay open to the possibility that your opinion is wrong? That is what I try to do. I do HAVE an opinion, it is not the same as Shoebat's but my opinion is now based on more information than it was before I listened to him.
I do not hate Muslims, I do understand that some people have identified as "Muslim" as a matter of convenience or poltiics. However, there is a lot of pro-Islam propaganda as well as anti-Islam propaganda, and falling fully for either message is where you get into trouble. Check this out, it is another informative viewpoint, IMO. Peace!
Here you go, another perspective with vitally important information you may not otherwise have access to. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=539380043132455&set=a.119199098483887&type=3&theater
totally agreed fishyculture
you hit the nail right on the button
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if youve studied all this and were taught in a school you are the one that is biased and more than likely making things up since thats what you were taught lol
try to have an open mind and have a great day geek girl
i have friends who have read all three holy books and laughs at all religious people since 90 percent of people educated on religions cant see in front of their noses lmao
cheers
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The truth is always one sided. But, one shouldn't be offended when their beliefs are tested. That's where all the problems start. I do have Muslims friends and we get along just fine. I love them just like I love my own family.
Absolutely. If you want to have a healthy debate after you watch the video lemme know :)
I have watched 40 minutes of it. I had to stop because it seems he is just making up stuff and not even giving proper references to justify his interpretations.
I understand when it comes to prophecies there are some interpretations and connecting dots maybe needed. But that needs to be done responsibly with proper citing why he is interpreting things that way. He is also talking to his audience as if he is revealing some secrets only he knows, and everybody else got it wrong for thousands of years.
Here are my highlights:
In minute 13, he makes a claim that every Muslim believe in the coming of Mahdi who rules the world for 7 years and kills all jews. No reference where he got it from. He is expecting everybody just to trust his words. Irresponsible, and probably incorrect claim.
He is giving references to the Bible and which verses he is attempting to interpret. However, he is failing to give references to why he is interpreting that way. Gold and silver he says are Iraq and Iran. Why? They can be any place in space and time.
He interprets animals to Muslim majority countries as well. When he starts interpreting "Bear", the audience suggests Russia. He says no it is Iran. Wait what? It seems Russia didn't fit his agenda there.
When it comes to interpreting countries, he is doing the same thing. Attaching certain countries to fit his narrative, with no reasonable explanation. Not only countries manipulated based on geographic location, but also time. For example, he uses Byzantium, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire in various place and uses when it only fits his interpretation.
He is saying Jesus will come back to destroys Muslim countries he named based on his interpretations. Hmmm, Jesus a destroyer or countries/people? Don't think so. Quite the opposite, in my opinion.
He is using Muslim countries to represent Islam. Big scholarly mistake (if he is a scholar that is) to use countries as a reference to any religion. Iran, Irak, Saudi Arabia, etc are not Islam and vice versa. Applies to any religion.
Problems, conflicts, wars throughout history were not due to religions, but rather politics and political/geopolitical interests. Politics and politicians(monarchs, rulers, regimes, etc) use ideas, ideologies, religions to server their purpose. Not knowing which is what actually causes bigger dangers. He seems to be mixing up them to make his point.
If at any point in the video he is making a convincing or strong argument with proper sourcing, I will be happy to look at it again.
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