Anarchast Ep.407
Larken Rose vs Adam Kokesh great debate on Anarchast. Topics include: debating the usefulness of using the political system to further the cause of Anarchism, democracy is inherently bogus, is any degree of statism acceptable, Ron Paul is at least a voluntarist, declaring the federal government of no authority, a practical way out of statism, people waking up en-mass, does the president have the power to remove the post of president, the Libertarian takeover of the libertarian party, political authority is fake and illegitimate, principal vs pragmatism...
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Before it was chaotic without politics, if we remove politics nowadays we need to enlighten ourselves first. And most people today are half conscious and they need leaders. :)
Disagree entirely! To state that people need leaders can be similarized with stating sheep need paddocks to lead their lives. It's a statement based out of fear alone!
People need to be informed, nothing more, and definitely nothing less!
Nice
Power corrupts
this was incredible! i would like to see Larkin and Adam sit down and re construct the platform together, to make it more pleasing for both, because those two working in stereo would be a great team. i really enjoy both of them as well as the varying perspectives on the same subject!
I have to agree with you they are both great people and they are both very passionate. I am glad they decided to do this and we can't forget @jeffberwick for making it happen and moderating. The sad part is we can see what they could do for the world and I am going to remain hopeful that they will join forces along with Jeff and many others to do the right thing. If we could get more of us to come together instead of trying to be the "top dog". I like to call it ego's and attitude's. Thanks Jeff, Adam and Larken .
the president can change the jabatanya by congress. the present time politics has been made in the commander.
What exactly is a jabatanya?
The more people say things as they see it, the better for the system. Takeovers don't what the while.
If you takeover now something or somebody will takeover later.
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A fan of politics being a student of political antiquity nice one
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I love Adam Kokesh, but democracy cannot save us. Unfortunately, Larken Rose doesn't seem to be making as much headway. I would like to see him get more notice. In that sense I support and watch both of these guys.
hmm i will watch them!!
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I love both of them, even got Larkens Book here, but i think both of them are kinda right. The core voluntarists shouldn't start playing the whole politics game all over again, and Adam isn't stressing this as much as he should in my opinion, for them he should be like "vote for me if you don't mind" because even a small percentage of votes would be a sign how many people really want change, and he can reach new people, but Larken is totally right when saying voting won't free us, before 50% of the population votes for Adam the US Government would be over just by the pure Power of so many people rejecting to give money to that monster.
Adams campaign can do good when aimed at normal people, so bring them in the right direction, but for anarchists it would be a step back putting much hope into Adam beeing elected, thats my view on that.
Larken is right, Adam as president (if the polling booths weren't rigged) would just be impeached or assassinated before he was even sworn in.
I mean look at Kennedy he wanted to keep the government and do away with the CIA and the federal reserve, but even that got him assassinated. Much like Lincoln...When are we going to realize that this isn't a force that plays by it's own rules.
The problem with trying to dismantle the system by using the system is never going to work. They just move the goal posts every time, much like they did to Ron Paul.
I believe unfortunate as it is, the only way to remove the power structures in place namely the government and the federal Reserve which we know is not federal along with its crony commercial banking industry is through a well planned militarized attack, which will basically lead to a civil war...If you look through history this is how radical change has always come about through violence .
The only reason i say this is because of the subversive, infiltrating and intimidating tactics a power structure will use to self preserve. It doesn't play the game it owns the game and it rules.
Due to technology the world has never been closer together but it also couldn't make it more far apart. Technology leaves a massive gap when it comes to public opinion or more importantly mass psychology. Subversion, Infiltration, fake accounts, sock puppets, shills, trolls, fake protests, fake movements, all tools to divide.
The only solution is take action as a minority militia perhaps 2 or 300 thousand armed initially pray like fuck some of the military get on board then pray the millions of awake fence sitters get on board. And expect massive amounts of dead! History shows that revolutions are almost exclusively achieved by a minority of the population.
If you make it that far, and that's a big if. You need to have a planned moral constitution regarding all aspect of human rights including the financial right to exchange goods and services freely. A well thought moral constitution will act as an incorruptible pillar of establishment..Then you need discretionary courts which don't imprison by law but by common sense and served with a randomly selected voluntary council and I could just keep going on..Point is you would need to be extremely organised pre and post government.
Tell me realistically if there is a better way other than violence?
Nice your post. I things Larken Rose vs Adam Kokesh great debate on Anarchast.
It's a marketplace for ideas and I'm glad both have the opportunity to express their points of view.
Haven't we had presidential candidates that made fun of the process in the past? Pat Paulsen, Will Rogers come to mind...
I will Jeff on this one... anything people can do to get the word out is healthy but I do recognize the value of Larken's observation.
And remember, there's always other options as well. Creating a environment where people can gain confidence in themselves and the community around them is my way.
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Yaa, great debate @adamkokesh (y) (y) .
Is the best
Nice vid
at the end of all who is the winner, adam kokesh or larken rose ... for me the winner is adam kokesh.
I like to know what happened to that $6000 pledged towards his bail.
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I haven't started watching yet, but I like both approaches. Running as a candidate more than anything gets these ideas into the collective consciousness. The real change however, i think comes from technological innovations that make the current system obsolete. Such as bitcoin, steemit, bitnation, etc. crypto-anarchy is the idea that you design a system that makes violence ineffective and impotent, but anarchist political candidates still helps to get these ideas more exposure, which doesn't hurt anything, even though it doesn't actually change anything in itself. Okay, now to watch the debate. popcorn ready.
Which doesn't hurt? Have you never heard of "Divide et Impera"?
This attempted move by the suited up "anarchist" is exactly that, confusing and divisory.
Summary:
Rose makes rational arguments based on principle and sound logic while Kokesh delivers rehearsed politician lines and tries to get people to become delegates for the LP.
good post;) about damaged kekeuasan!
Dan dalam waktu yang berarti tetap sibuk mendapatkan teknologi blockchain yang bisa kita gunakan untuk memecahkan semua masalah yang akan muncul saat Anda melakukan ini! Lol
The problem is that people can not imagine anything better than the zoo. Real freedom scares the shit out of people, they may have to actually grow up and be responsible for themselves. You are not going to get people that have grown up living in shit to recognize it. You are going to have to show them green pastures before they will want to make a move.
I did a video response to this debate. Please check it out.
https://d.tube/v/neopatriarch/aniwvlov
Look at this suit, like any other suit, asking for powers over other suits, in order to purportedly declare suits unwanted.... anyone else see the blatant humor?
Is this Adam-guy serious? Or just poorly trained controlled opposition?