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RE: I Started Selling Crack At 12 - My Intro And Story

in #introduceyourself8 years ago (edited)

Good thing you made a living on helping people getting killed. As someone who lost a very close relative on drugs, I think you should see the other side of your actions.

by the time I was 13 I was moving 20-30 grand of soft and hard ( powder coke and crack) a day, my cut was $2,000 and my mom would also get paid $1,000 for letting me "hang out".

contradicts

I'm not sure how people will feel about me by the time it's done but please try to remember we were only trying to survive and back then we didn't see a whole lot of options, this is what life was for us.

Surviving can be done with 20$ a day. Making 2k a day makes you just a lousy dealer looking for the bling bling.

You sir, deserve a spot on Satan's wishlist. Watching the rest of your posts and maybe when we know the full story i'll reconsider.

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@steve-walschot
Empathy, then post. @hustle-no-more was a KID! When I was 13 I had a business, too: delivering newspapers.

I mean come on dude.

Now, this part might sound a little harsh, but I think it's the appropriate and ethical thing to say here so I am going to:

  • @hustle-no-more didn't do anything wrong, he was a kid placed into this situation, and... how can I put this-- when something-- even something like dealing crack-- is "normal"-- well, you do it because that's what your tribe does. Your community.
  • Now, some people did do terrible things, really. Those people are the politicians who made drugs illegal in the first place, and even moreso the nixon-era politicans who deliberately used drug policy to harm the left movement in the states and of course-- minorities of every non-white color.
  • But despite the uneven enforcement of our drug laws in the states, even whites are hurt by our drug laws.

Pure drugs of known quality and quantity just aren't that dangerous, even financially. Cocaine has a production cost somewhere around sugar. Marijuana similar to any dried herb, and the list goes on and on-- and really-- none of them-- NONE OF THEM-- just instantly kill you. Now, know that I'm not at all advocating for drugs. I'm advocating for drug legalization, so that we can all be free of the war on drugs. All the white people coming to @hustle-no-more's neighborhood wouldn't have been harming his community if it weren't for the fact that what they wanted was illegal, and so they turned to America's usual bitch to get it: the poor.

Dude, you just have no fucking clue, okay?

I'm really, really sincerely sorry about your relative, and my post probably doesn't sound like I possibly could be, but I am. I wish they had pure drugs of a known quantity and quality to take safe-ish-ly, instead of the crap that probably killed them. That's what's killing users, BTW, and that is a direct result of the war on drugs. As Americans, we need to own up to this.

  • Stop the war on drugs
  • Stop using WOD to profile / harass / imprison poor people
  • Stop using WOD to export politics and political violence outside of US borders
  • Stop using WOD to import cocaine/heroin to fund black ops

Dude, no. @hustle-no-more deserves no spot whatsoever on anyone's list. And hell, I haven't heard the rest of the story, he might've done some fucked up shit-- I don't know. But he got pulled into a vortex of shit caused directly by decades of literally evil policies.

Are you trying to justify these actions? I hope you never have to bury a 16yr old kid who died because of punks like him selling stuff on the streets to buy themselfs a nice rolex.

@steve-walschot

And I truly, sincerely wish that you hadn't had to, either. I couldn't imagine the pain.

I'm not trying to justify any action, I'm simply saying that you need to look at these things in context. 13 year olds don't think about rolexes, you know.

Again, I in no way belittle your pain, please know that. I, too want to solve the conditions which led to his death. This is a systemic problem, and I hope that we're good enough to solve it. Personally, I don't think that prohibition ever will. It'll just lead to more stories like yours and @hustle-no-more's, and those are both surely tragic.

Do you blame the soldier who killed your son in a war in a faraway land? Or do you blame the ones who started the war? Maybe yourself for sending him away? Maybe the media for making you so blind to let your son go to war?

I have a 6 yr old son, and I would NEVER send him off to a war.
And even though I realize that the curcumstances aren't exactly similar, it's a war in both cases. The war on drugs was started by your politicians, and it's a war on it's own citizens. And in wars there are collateral damages.

If you want to make a change; end the war on drugs

I think I came up with the right words--

The "drug war" is the man against the world because the man knows there will always be people wanting to get high. Even animals do this. In today's system we have 13 year olds risking death selling crack/coke/smack to folks like the 16 year old in your life. First of all, in your grief, which you're totally entitled to, it's sensible to be angry. Fuck, I'd be angry Steve, I assure you.

....But anger is powerful. Anger can bring change sir and change is surely what we need. Right now, your anger is quite frankly misdirected. I'm not saying that dealers ever did your kid a favor, no sir. But realize that your kid, and @hustle-no-more's moms' kid...... they're both victims of the state. Look at legalization experiments, read, read, and read some more. You have within you the power to make meaningful and lasting change, but at the moment, you're raging at a pawn. $1-2k/day in profits on $30k in product is PAWN status. Who knows, maybe he becomes more "successful" in this rigged game. Maybe he even serves time. I don't know.

The people who orchestrate the whole kit and kaboodle-- especially for the often-lethal-power-drugs.... are very CLEARLY the CIA. Here are some links:

Please, please read these. Your anger is fully justified. Please focus it on those who wronged both your son and @hustle-no-more. They're literally evil, and deeply deserving of your wrath.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
https://americanfreepress.net/is-cia-fueling-new-u-s-drug-epidemic-using-cheap-heroin-from-afghanistan-cia-obama-team-up-to-hide-darkest-secrets/
http://humansarefree.com/2015/02/overwhelming-evidence-that-cia-is.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-drug-lords-a-brief-history-of-cia-involvement-in-the-drug-trade/10013

Pure drugs of a known quality don't lead to addiction? Wow, never knew.

Pure drugs of a known quality totally lead to addiction.

Where in the hell did I say otherwise?

Difference being, addicts tend not to die. Sorry, but I prefer fewer drug-related deaths to more drug-related deaths every time.

I too am in favor of fewer drug-related deaths. And I too am in favor of legalization. However, I am having difficulty reconciling 'fewer deaths' with 'not that dangerous'.

Sorry, @jsteck surely should have said "far less dangerous than today's state of affairs"

drugs-- especially powder-drugs.... are dangerous, end of story.


but not as dangerous as William James "Bill" O'Reilly, Jr. would have you believe, not even close.

Sure, I guess he was supposed to raise himself. It seems so logical to tell a kid he should know better. Your relative that died from drugs definitely knew better. They were raised by people who knew better. Shame on your family. The kids selling them the drugs were raised by kids selling drugs. They weren't lucky enough to be raised by adults who would throw them a nerf football with nerf on the inside.

Do you survive on $20 a day? Why not? Because you can make more. Probably legally. Probably selling something to somebody who really doesn't need it by telling them it will do something it won't. But, it isn't illegal so then it is an honest living, right?

You are the reason a failed businessman turned reality idiot is making a mockery of the democratic system. You are a fake. A simpleton by any definition.

No man, he's just in crushing pain. I might lash out at the first drug-dealer I met, too if I were him.