Oh, so you're saying, don't make money off their tool. Make money off this other tool instead! Okay, well we can agree to disagree about which tool to use. I'm not even 3 weeks on here so just glad to have even discovered the bid bots so soon. Before I did I was going down the road so many newbies go down of getting no visibility for their posts (because we start with no followers). But maybe over time I will be ready to use other tools. Right now I will not deny that the bots are helping me. I don't consider them negative ROI because I'm not only looking at the immediate return. But you do you. I'm certainly not trying to convince you. I'm sure what you're doing is working for you or you wouldn't be doing it.
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listen, don't listen to this guy. You are on the right track. The truth is that if you don't have/get a whale in your pocket you will never be noticed here no matter how great your content is. Every single person that has actually used bots will tell you what you have said, you get more notice and more votes/views from others. There is also this...
since you get much of your original sbd back you can then use it time and time again on future posts with bots to gain cumulative roi.
I have not been able to figure out why this guy is being such a dick, maybe he's being paid or something but basically none of is argument is based in fact.
Welcome to steemit. :)
Thank you for saying that. I figured out today, after enough time seeing my patterns, that I am about breaking even on the SBD to the bots, but my SP is going up. That means it is a sustainable approach to grow my SP without needing to invest more USD, which is all I need. I wouldn't have nearly as much SP this quickly without the bots. And honestly, I love what I write and love that I have a way of getting people to actually see it and engage in a meaningful way in the comments.
I couldn't in good conscience advise people on getting started on the platform, as I am doing, and not recommend that they take advantage of this feature for growing an engaged audience and growing their SP with a modest initial investment in SBD.
I've spent total $100 on SBD and literally thousands on Facebook ads, and already get to have more meaningful conversations here on Steemit being here not even a month yet! No, actually I just realized, a month as of today! LOL
Thanks again for the encouraging words.
You can't agree to disagree on math! This is why I am more persuaded by grumpy cat than the stance made by the alliance. The math is clear. The math is obvious. The math is indisputable.
Bid bots are essentially scams. They convince you to accept negative ROI based off a damn marketing campaign that says "you'll get the organic votes from being in the Hot section"....
Hmm 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Let's go over what I said just so that we are clear.
EVERYTHING that you can "get" from bid bots are ENTIRELY non-exclusive. You get the EXACT same benefits from vote sellers and queue list bots.
Bid bots give negative ROI and sellers give 270% ROI. And queue list bots give 300%
You just proved my point on inflated post values. You've been on here for 3 weeks??? You're a noob! You never actually made a SteemIt grind for 5 months to get your level of post payouts. Instead of natural growth, bid bots have created a skewed pay to play system. A pay to bid bots to play the system.
If those 3 points that I've made oh too many times doesn't convince you that bid bots are a waste of money consider the morality behind it.
Any vote bots are typically created through SP delegations. So consider these.
I am a part of the team for 2 queue list bots. One reduced ROI a month ago and the other just recently.
If it's no longer profitable forus to sell votes that give you profit, why are there so many bid bots?
.... Because they are scammy as hell! They give you negative ROI!!!! ALL THE ROI IS GIVEN TO THEM.
You understand why grumpy cat flags bid bot users??? He's an OG. You haven't been around long enough to see how SteemIt has changed. You haven't been around to see what bid bots did to SteemIt. You haven't been around long enough to see that you are being scammed and that's why you refuse to accept that you've been scammed.
Grumpy cat is flagging because there's no other way you'll learn!!! You are sheeple that can't see how much money... Your money is being stolen by an utter marketing campaign that has turned you into a bid bot addict.
He is punishing you for the addict you are so that you can go to SteemIt rehab and get help for your addiction before you start spending your USD for SteemIt at a loss.