@tt-dogg just came through and down voted every post I have ever made off the map.... What the fuck ... How is this encouraging new growth... I'm with you on this fight @Berniesanders but I just lost everything.... I had pay outs coming that I needed... I had boosted hoping for a return now its gone cause of this fight
Can someone explain to me what this beef is all about? I have a feeling lots of people are unhappy with the other guys posts, they seem all scammy and pump and dumpy
From what I can tell the conflict goes like this: The reward pool used to reward every poster and curator is limited each day. A couple whales (users with a lot of Steem Power) have enough power to claim a large percentage of this reward pool if they vote regularly each day. That results in fewer rewards for everyone else when used to a certain extend.
The user haejin posts up to 10 crypto market analyst posts a day and the upvotes on those posts make up a noticeable amount of the whole reward pool each day. The most value from those posts is added by haejin himself as well as another whale called ranchorelaxo, who mostly interacts with haejins posts on this platform. Bernie criticizes that and claims that haejin's posts are not worth the large amount of reward he receives from them. From there it's mostly a flag war going on, where Bernie flags haejins posts to reduce the payouts and haejin does the same to Bernies posts. There are also some personal insults exchanged between the two.
seems to me that Bernie is the underdog since haejin has some pretty crazy voting power.
I dont respect Haejin for never upvoting comments on his posts.
Personally I try to upvote as many people as I can to share the growth but obviously I try to retain as much voting power for my own posts so that I can grow my steem power.
You're wrong. I just haven't bothered to use all of my SP, yet. $450/post is no problem to remove, but, what's the incentive? Why should I do it alone?
It took me quite long to see with the clear eyes...
The funniest or saddest thing, when I tried to talk to people about it, people who are much longer on Steemit than I am, no one wanted to get involved or even share their opinion. The common answer was that they don't need the haejin war in their account...
You guys or haven't read or completely misunderstood my comment there,
I think you haven't read, just auto-flagged.
Can you please correct that maybe...?
something similar happened to me, they marked me for a comment also I do not know if it is automatic or that but they are the same accounts that you see there.
Thx @networker5, good to know that someone here read me...
and yep, I am sure those are from a bot.
I guess the safest thing is to do not stick out our noses LOL
But all of these for new Steemians is quite discouraging...
Exactly, that's the lesson I learned, that did not show me because of those whale germs because they splashed me without any guilt, the best thing is to stay away, but on the other hand that is a failure of this platform since we are decentralized and we could do what we would like without being afraid to be marked but unfortunately there is a clear disadvantage of us (the little ones) and I should not be that way, in earnings I see it normal for a person who has invested more time and more effort to earn more but I do not see well that someone has more power than others just for being bigger because then all the others are at a clear disadvantage and those flags can do us a lot of damage.
porcierto not very well how much damage this type of flags do you have idea of that?
that is, if a flag puts a fish on me, will it have the same effect as if a flag were placed on me by a whale ?, and the effect in that sense is that it only cuts out the profits in that post or comment or also affects my reputation. ?
in my case I had a reputation of 55 and then I put those bot a few negative flags but I have not seen that my reputation has dropped and that apparently the bot accounts are quite large (whales)
I asked @berniesanders to take them away from me because they are clearly misunderstood but it seems that I have not read, I asked him because I understand that all these accounts are handled by only one person and by deduction I deduced that he was the one but I am not insurance.
Hi there, I hear you...
I even sent a transfer to Bernies with a comment to read that entry, hoping that he would have to see it, but it did not help at all, he still did not read it...
Yes, the flags have a negative impact on our reputations, but since they were only 1% (at least that was in my case) their impact was minimal.
Let us keep on Steeming and do not get discouraged by it,
I am following you now for we have to be kinred spirits ;-)
disregard them.. try not to squander your VP any longer.. upvote these minnows and enable them to developsregard them.. try not to squander your VP any longer.. upvote these minnows and enable them to develop
your icon is the same as mine lol
For a moment I thought that I had a deja vu when I looked and saw my comment but I did not remember that I commented here, until I realized that it was not me and it was just the icon like that hahahaha
Not that anyone from Upbit is locking in their steem or sbd as steem power, but is there the potential that serious investors looking to take part in this weird website will move on to other greener pastures because they see other big investors nuking each others' accounts on the daily? I don't mind the entertainment value the drama creates, just wondering how this effects the perception when seen from the outside. And just to verify, autovoting/voting rings are the most profitable hypothetical strategy on SP returns on steemit, correct?
LONG LIVE BERNIE
a good post likes me, laughing is possible conflagrant clown)))
THIS GUY IS DOWN VOTING ALL OF US GIVE EM THE BERN !! @TT-DOGG
Lyndsaybowes
wtf
hahahahahaha
lol
give me yur like please
Hi @berniesanders, I have never seen such hard fighting like this.
https://steemit.com/blog/@farazahmad/reality-of-sweetsssj-she-is-doing-fraud-part-2
Here we got even more problems...
In a perfect world team bernie cooperate with haejin after this haejin does some meditation and gets to the conclusion that he did wrong...
But in this world they want to take your right to flag.
No offence, but it looks like 30s of wasted time in powerpoint...
@berniesanders Haejin is not even the biggest issue. We have ponzi pimps going rampant, promoting scams AND draining the reward pool!
https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@trevonjb/my-first-minnowbooster-payout-and-breakdown
https://steemit.com/freedom/@craig-grant/plbm7xwp
https://steemit.com/usi-tech/@colinbrazendale/usi-tech-horst-jicha-coo-of-usi-tech-breaking-the-silence-in-webinar-last-night
SAVE US ONCE AGAIN BERNIE!
People like Trevon craphead James don't freakin belong here, gonna save myself a puke and not click the links, I will trust your word for it 😐
Support me please with my voice, I will be your follower
ignore them.. don't waste your VP anymore.. upvote these minnows and help them grow
please help me grow your voice
By reducing whale rewards, he's effectively helping minnows grow.
But it he helped us grow more we could help him more in the fight...
Hopefuly it big enough to get rid of @haejin once and for all
@tt-dogg just came through and down voted every post I have ever made off the map.... What the fuck ... How is this encouraging new growth... I'm with you on this fight @Berniesanders but I just lost everything.... I had pay outs coming that I needed... I had boosted hoping for a return now its gone cause of this fight
Every post you have ever made? That's not even true from what I see, looks like you are trying to use this situation to get more upvotes
No just my ones pending payment
ah , I see , so, "downvoted every post I have ever made off the map" means what?
seriously ?
Is this the calm before the storm
give me your like please
Can someone explain to me what this beef is all about? I have a feeling lots of people are unhappy with the other guys posts, they seem all scammy and pump and dumpy
From what I can tell the conflict goes like this: The reward pool used to reward every poster and curator is limited each day. A couple whales (users with a lot of Steem Power) have enough power to claim a large percentage of this reward pool if they vote regularly each day. That results in fewer rewards for everyone else when used to a certain extend.
The user haejin posts up to 10 crypto market analyst posts a day and the upvotes on those posts make up a noticeable amount of the whole reward pool each day. The most value from those posts is added by haejin himself as well as another whale called ranchorelaxo, who mostly interacts with haejins posts on this platform. Bernie criticizes that and claims that haejin's posts are not worth the large amount of reward he receives from them. From there it's mostly a flag war going on, where Bernie flags haejins posts to reduce the payouts and haejin does the same to Bernies posts. There are also some personal insults exchanged between the two.
seems to me that Bernie is the underdog since haejin has some pretty crazy voting power.
I dont respect Haejin for never upvoting comments on his posts.
Personally I try to upvote as many people as I can to share the growth but obviously I try to retain as much voting power for my own posts so that I can grow my steem power.
Perfect
You're wrong. I just haven't bothered to use all of my SP, yet. $450/post is no problem to remove, but, what's the incentive? Why should I do it alone?
Wish I could help you man, I don't have the power yet. Wouldn't mind some of those upvotes youve been getting, id put them to good use
Thank you for explaining that in simple words.
I´m not that long here on Steemit. But did notice that there is something wrong between those guys.
I really don´t care about those things right now. I keep on posting when I think I have to post someting.
The rest will come from it self....
for your dartboard
Look guys, this is how it looks for the trending tag altcoins:
https://steemit.com/trending/altcoins
absolutely crazy...
I just tried to share that in the comment to his last analysis:
https://steemit.com/vibe/@haejin/vibe-is-chop-chopping-sideways-price-action-as-shown-by-the-usd-btc-eth-pairs##@cryptoclick/re-haejin-vibe-is-chop-chopping-sideways-price-action-as-shown-by-the-usd-btc-eth-pairs-20180128t052901526z
but doubt if his followers would bother to click and think...
It took me quite long to see with the clear eyes...
The funniest or saddest thing, when I tried to talk to people about it, people who are much longer on Steemit than I am, no one wanted to get involved or even share their opinion. The common answer was that they don't need the haejin war in their account...
You guys or haven't read or completely misunderstood my comment there,
I think you haven't read, just auto-flagged.
Can you please correct that maybe...?
Maybe you can see it better here:
Huge misunderstanding, I was hoping for your support with this...
My point there was that Haejin has completely overtaken some of the tags.
something similar happened to me, they marked me for a comment also I do not know if it is automatic or that but they are the same accounts that you see there.
Thx @networker5, good to know that someone here read me...
and yep, I am sure those are from a bot.
I guess the safest thing is to do not stick out our noses LOL
But all of these for new Steemians is quite discouraging...
Exactly, that's the lesson I learned, that did not show me because of those whale germs because they splashed me without any guilt, the best thing is to stay away, but on the other hand that is a failure of this platform since we are decentralized and we could do what we would like without being afraid to be marked but unfortunately there is a clear disadvantage of us (the little ones) and I should not be that way, in earnings I see it normal for a person who has invested more time and more effort to earn more but I do not see well that someone has more power than others just for being bigger because then all the others are at a clear disadvantage and those flags can do us a lot of damage.
porcierto not very well how much damage this type of flags do you have idea of that?
that is, if a flag puts a fish on me, will it have the same effect as if a flag were placed on me by a whale ?, and the effect in that sense is that it only cuts out the profits in that post or comment or also affects my reputation. ?
in my case I had a reputation of 55 and then I put those bot a few negative flags but I have not seen that my reputation has dropped and that apparently the bot accounts are quite large (whales)
I asked @berniesanders to take them away from me because they are clearly misunderstood but it seems that I have not read, I asked him because I understand that all these accounts are handled by only one person and by deduction I deduced that he was the one but I am not insurance.
Hi there, I hear you...
I even sent a transfer to Bernies with a comment to read that entry, hoping that he would have to see it, but it did not help at all, he still did not read it...
Yes, the flags have a negative impact on our reputations, but since they were only 1% (at least that was in my case) their impact was minimal.
Let us keep on Steeming and do not get discouraged by it,
I am following you now for we have to be kinred spirits ;-)
disregard them.. try not to squander your VP any longer.. upvote these minnows and enable them to developsregard them.. try not to squander your VP any longer.. upvote these minnows and enable them to develop
You're a mysterious one @berniesanders
your icon is the same as mine lol
For a moment I thought that I had a deja vu when I looked and saw my comment but I did not remember that I commented here, until I realized that it was not me and it was just the icon like that hahahaha
Patiently waiting for the change @bernie
Yes sir, I believe you can bring the changes
I believe in you @berniesanders I know u will do it sir
Hope to have you back stronger than ever. You know you should because you've got a large number of followers waiting to be inspired by you
Yeah! I strongly believe. There's a brighter and better future.
Just keep hoping and believing and don't relent cus everything will soon change for the better
Motivational
Following Berniesanders's footsteps
What should we do in the mean time keep flagging?
Sail on captain! We're behind you
Yeah,,,,Bernie will come back with full force
Its going up, he is at 4% ... OK I will not worry u got this
Yesterday Stats:
Ok I was wrong he is above 4 today
@berniesanders I got flagged for posting on your post by @ tt-dogg
I guess speaking the truth gets you flagged @berniesanders . My first flag !!! What do I do, celebrate or cry?
His name was Bernie Sanders. His name was Bernie Sanders...
All things will change every time. Steemit needs a lot of people like you. You are very brave. I support you
@berniesanders... please keep being our voice in this war. We appreciate all your effort.... keep the good work!
PEACE will come!
CHORUS: "WE WANT A POST!" 3X REFRAIN
hahaha yes, things are been quite how will change :):):)
This is getting old
How did you get a 'minus' score for reputation ?
(sorry i am new here.. i didn't see any negative scores before).
Also:
Why does everybody's 'Wallet Page' have a score of 25 ?
Gotta love the @haejin hate!
there must be tonnes of people doing the same as Haejin.
Waow... After reading this i concluded down in my heart that my present situation can't define who i am...
Thank you @berniesanders
hopefully it will change.
I sens someone will quit steemit after this
Nice post.I respect you very much because you contribute to steemit.I will do activities like you.I would like to extend the steemit.
Guess i need my popcorn ready then ;)
I believe it will all change for Good
Sure it will.
Just a matter of TIME!
Happy steeming
Things have been quiet? 😐 Can't wait to see what loud looks like!
I was surprised too... Whats going on?
It is going to turn out good, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
I was hopefully wait to see that.
So we believe
Sounds like you've been working on something, can't wait to see what it is.
Surly, and it can only change for the better
yeh
Not that anyone from Upbit is locking in their steem or sbd as steem power, but is there the potential that serious investors looking to take part in this weird website will move on to other greener pastures because they see other big investors nuking each others' accounts on the daily? I don't mind the entertainment value the drama creates, just wondering how this effects the perception when seen from the outside. And just to verify, autovoting/voting rings are the most profitable hypothetical strategy on SP returns on steemit, correct?
Surely it will. Change is the only constant thing.
I am really curious what is going to happen next. Now and here is written The history of Steem!